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unemployment was at historic lows, you just got unlucky. idk what to tell you man

There was a massive downward revision in August, with most sectors hit hard, leaving the gains that remained increasingly dominated by government/education/healthcare jobs.

Telling people 'X' when their eyes/lived experiences tell them 'Y', and then frequently insulting them for not agreeing on top is certainly part of the reason for the popular vote going as it did.

this person basically just went: bad thing happened to me -> blame the president -> vote for the other person.

i have no interest in coddling people's feelings and telling them how right they are when they are operating with this level of analysis. Im not a politician so i dont have to deal with that, but im so tired of trying to explain how the world works to stupid people and getting shit for it because im not validating their delusions.

When presidents are quick to take credit for economic successes, surely it isn't unreasonable to hold them accountable for economic failures.

The disconnect between government data and the economic realities MANY people experienced (as evidenced by exit polling on the economy) only further salts the wounds for people not doing well.

again, youre assuming people's delusions about their personal finances are worth entertaining. theres absolutely no economic indicator you could point me to that validates people's feelings about the economy.

There were no economic failures during Joe Biden's presidency.

Economic indicators are manufactured by government agencies to support the narrative the current administration wants to spin. Meanwhile, people living in the real world observe some actual state of economy, based on things such as "how hard it was to find a new job".

Or maybe they said that "Bad thing happened to me", tired to recover, no recovery happening and it begins to feel like being lied to, blame the president.

It's at historic lows while layoffs are happening all over. I don't know what to say but it doesn't feel like good times to a bunch of people.

John Deere: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/john-deere-faces-b...

GM: https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/21/business/gm-layoffs-kansas/in...

Stellantis: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5145932/stellantis-jeep...

https://intellizence.com/insights/layoff-downsizing/leading-...

Exactly what Harris was saying, hence the direction of my vote! Also, 50 job apps and no call backs, this is the WORST economy ever. In 2018, I would submit 3 and get 3 offers at the end of it.

Do you genuinely think that this is the worst economy ever?

In my lifetime, yes.

Does that include the 2000s tech crash? AI winters?

Sounds like a skill issue. I never even saw a slowdown of recruiter spam. Maybe you should just try a little?

Also, maybe look into a little history while youre at it - the economy is not even close to the worst one ever, see: 1930s, 1970s, the turn of the millenium, and 2008-2012 for examples in living memory.

It is a skill issue. The folks at the bottom today within the USA economically when unemployment is so low and social mobility is so high do so out of choice. I've traveled the rest of the world and seen what actual poverty looks like (the kind where you have no real hope even if you work hard or are smart). I've seen how much better the US handled every crisis/pandemic vs others. We have it better than anyone else BY FAR.

I'm tired of pretending it's not. Want to call me a coastal elite like it's a slur? I'll wear it with a badge of honor. We are better than you at economic planning and becoming prosperous - also with defending social freedoms (i.e. legalizing the mushrooms).

We lost the low information voters. Bad from the perspective of winning elections but good from the perspective of self selecting your friends and people you associate with. The democrats really are a social club.

> We lost

This is what matters.

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