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A key and screen logger is what I consider malware. At least with Siri it can be disabled during the setup Wizard and you can choose to use it or not (i never do on Mac)

And Apple intelligence is mostly local on device. I don't think I'll use it either as I have my own AI server already and I only use a Mac for work. But Apple's implementation is privacy-first, where Microsoft's is "get this to market first, worry about everything else later"

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> At least with Siri it can be disabled during the setup Wizard and you can choose to use it or not (i never do on Mac)

How is that different than disabling Recall on first boot/setup?

Microsoft is notorious for resetting user permissions randomly. Like after updates

Options turn themselves on for some reason, historically speaking

I'm sure Copilot will get turned on when it sees my browsing history. I certainly did :)

Knowing the Microsoft of this decade, eventually you will only have the options [Yes, spy me] and [Ask me later].

Historically, the comparison from Apple is simply "Spy on me - but pretend you don't through shiny advertising". What's a better is up for interpretation I think.

Apple: CONSUMERS, WE RESPECT YOUR PRIVACY UNLIKE GOOGLE!!!11

Consumers: Then why did you implement equivalent APIs to the ones advertisers use to siphon our information from Android?

Apple: OH UNFAITHFUL CONSUMER, IT WAS DONE SO TO TEST THEIR FREE WILL

> How is that different than disabling Recall on first boot/setup?

Microsoft is known for being utterly user-hostile when pushing features on people. I have a gaming PC I occasionally boot up and every single time I do so it harasses me to use their cloud service in a way that very much seems like it will restrict my ability to use my own computer if I don't.

User trust is expensive to buy and cheap to relinquish!

Microsoft has shown time and time again that they will gleefully reactivate things you have disabled and they will use dark patterns to hide their intent.

Remember this option was never planned from the start and only introduced after backlash. This is what I mean by the privacy-first focus at Apple. They don't need to be pressured into doing this.

> privacy-first focus at Apple

I'd argue Apple is more an "Invade the privacy but keep quiet about it" with a shiny and aggressive ad campaign toting privacy from (others, but conspicuously not apple).

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