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> Earlier this week, Microsoft again clarified that Recall will not be mandatory on Copilot Plus PCs, and will be an opt-in experience that can be fully removed. The clarification came after various YouTube videos claimed Recall was being installed on any PC with Windows 11, version 24H2.

Oh, thank god. I definitely heard the "You can't opt out!" line and was worried.

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Until Microsoft gives users a legally binding "And we'll never quietly turn it on with a Windows Update" promise I don't trust them, given the way disabled features repeatedly get reenabled by updates in Windows 10 and 11 already

Hope they warn us of the incoming spyware, so we can uninstall on the very next second, right before it grabs all it can and runs away with it.

Seriously. Not sure if the marketer who's preparing the "Get started with Recall!" graphic that's gonna pop up on our computers realizes that they're doing us a different kind of service, lol.

What exactly keeps people on Windows if they feel like theyre in such a relationship with their operating system?

In my household it's MS Office. My partner very much enjoys the UX of KDE, but can't switch because she's highly reliant on features in MS Office that I cannot find transliterated well enough to work on Linux. Otherwise, there is no place for Windows in my house.

It doesn't have all the features, but there is a web version of Office now. Might be worth a look?

It isn't sufficient if you're fluent in Excel, which she needs more than any other part of Office.

Aye, feared as much.

back in the day, I had little problem using crossover for office support.

Personally? Inertia. I hate switching tools/systems unless absolutely necessary. If I were a frog you could absolutely boil me.

For me? Gaming and lack of alternatives. I hate MacOS' hostility toward anything not Jobsian, and Linux doesn't have parity with Windows particularly around gaming.

I prefer Linux, but I dual-boot Windows for gaming, since I haven't been able to get my Nvidia card to work at its full capacity on Linux.

Yeah that's the best news so far. I would have used hacks to disable it anyway but the problem is that at work I can't do that.

But I'm in the IT department at my work and our privacy teams are also not even considering to implement this as it's a legal minefield in Europe. So big brother won't come to my work yet, at least for now.

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