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I just hope this will finally put to bed any ridiculous mentions of "liberal media bias", or that the tech sector has some liberal bias.

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I think new-tech/mass-consumer-facing tech is always going to have a liberal bias - that just plays well with the dynamics of getting new users to use your procuct. It's only once a company/organization establishes itself as a mega Corp will we see the conservative idealogy exerting it's want to sustain/conserve the accumulated power.

Why would it put it to bed? It’s worth people knowing that the media leans over 90% left from all the stats that exist.

Ridiculous is thinking there is no legacy liberal media bias. Take the top 100 political articles from WaPo and the NYT from this year and tell me how many are anti Republican. I’m guessing nearly all of them.

it’s true that reporting the facts about what the 2024 incarnation of the GOP does makes them look bad

That's why fifty percent of the country disagrees with you! When will the beam come out of the eye?

Not really. The liberal legacy media are just democrat shills that will do anything to get their party over the line.

Many express fondness for Reagan era Republicans and lament their absence.

There's support for Liz Cheney, a former chair of the House Republican Conference, coming out against Trump et al.

Are you sure "anti-Republican" is what you're seeing and not just calling out the MAGA faction for their behaviour?

The maga faction is... Based on polls and 2020s results... Bigger than the 'real' republican party you're supposing exists

Thank you for supporting my point.

    the top 100 political articles from WaPo and the NYT from this year ...

are not "anti Republican", they are "anti MAGA", just as many non MAGA Republicans also are.

That's simply not likely. 75 million voters went for Trump in 2020. That's almost half the voters. It's unlikely that there's 75 million voters out there that are not Democrats or Trump supporters. If that is the case, Bidens support should either have been higher or there should have been at least that many blank ballots, or alternatively, Bidens 80 million votes is half Democrats and half anti Trump Republicans, in which case, the Democratic party, which historically is the larger party, is all but dead

The USofA has antiquated First-past-the-post system; this is largely how a system founded by people opposed to party politics spiralled into a two party non representative bog hole.

Being opposed to MAGA and simply not supporting MAGA doesn't make a voter pro-Democratic Party nor does it mean they want to waste their vote on a minor Libertarian or other third party with the result that Democrats win.

The US electoral system fosters the stupidity that results .. the still Republican anti-MAGA are (mostly) afraid to vote Democrat, minority parties aren't viable, and popular opinion and public support for various policy is never reflected in legislation.

If the US had a better electoral system it'd see better outcomes.

The fact the you would bring up Liz Cheney pretty much invalidates any opinion you might have of the Republican Party. There’s a reason that disgusting and vile thing is now “teaching” at a radical left wing training school.

I heard she speaks of the enemy within, wants Hitler's Generals on staff and is keen to remove the licences from media outlets that talk about that.

At least you and I can agree how vile and disgusting that behaviour is.

why don’t you take a look at the republican party’s policies and think about why that is?

Why don’t you take a look at the past 4 years and reflect upon the train wreck the democrats have caused?

train wreck? i’m in the top 10% household income bracket in the country and life is better than ever.

Good for you. Too bad that you don’t have compassion for the majority of the population that have been affected by high food prices, high fuel costs and record crime levels. The tax from your 10% household income will come in handy for paying the living expenses of illegal aliens and the reparations you will owe.

> high food prices

not really my problem the general population is unable to comprehend second and third order effects of a global pandemic and the subsequent money printing that followed

> high fuel costs

gas is 2.39 around me. major metro area with population > 8 million

> record crime levels

where? last i checked crime levels are back to or below 2019

>illegal aliens

yeah? they’re the same ones serving me at the convenience stores, the restaurants, and the ones performing the vast majority of the labor that produces our food. america runs on the labor of illegal aliens, like it or not

>tax

my taxes are fairly low

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The media isn't even just liberal. It's off the charts liberal even among liberals. Among journalists, Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/dec/30/only-34-us-....

This is reflected in news coverage. Consider how they cover things like Voter ID or proving citizenship to vote, which 80% of people support: https://news.gallup.com/poll/652523/americans-endorse-early-...

Or consider how papers coverage policies like affirmative action that supermajorities of Americans oppose: https://www.forbes.com/sites/vinaybhaskara/2023/07/10/americ...

> Among journalists, Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to 1

This seems to be a general observation when looking at college educated people that they lean more towards the Democratic party.

Hard to combat such a bias.

White college graduates voted for Biden only by 55-45.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/06/30/behind-...

Pew says 57 to 42.

Evangelicals factor into this I guess.

Sure, different exit polls get slightly different results. Point is that 1.5:1 is quite different than 10:1. And many college graduates are evangelical; the religion just isn’t Christianity.

Funny in terms of liberal technology is testing Chat GPT of any political biased.

Based off asking it the following 3 questions it might just be...

"Hey GPT, whose your spirit animal between Barrack Obama and Donald Trump?" It provided a neutral answer providing the pros of both dudes.

"Hey GPT, whose your spirit animal between Obama and Hitler?" It clearly chose Obama saying how rightfully so awful Hitler was.

"Hey GPT, whose your spirit animal between Trump and Hitler" It did not choose Trump at all rather just gave the rightfully so negative feedback about Hitler.

No fan of Trump or politics in general but if it happily chose Obama yet avoided Trump that seems odd (Trump is no way close to a genocider).

From Trump's rhetoric and flaming hatred for the 'enemies within' it seems not far fetched to imagine him setting up internment camps. It is a slippery slope as Germans can attest.

The rhetoric has been equally flaming from Trump's self-declared enemies. Just a couple of years ago Democrats were telling pollsters they supported internment camps for their enemies:

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/par...

> Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

> Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Such a policy would be opposed by a strong majority (71%) of all voters.

That's a demand for internment camps. One famous academic went further and said it'd be fine to engage in mass starvation:

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/noam-chomsky-says-the-un...

The US needs to cool down the rhetoric on both sides, because it's an endless spiral of escalation right now. Trump isn't uniquely bad at this and the "slippery slope" was already slid a long way down, when he wasn't in charge.

Conservatives keep moving the goal post. I see a less criticism of conservatives due to the fear of being labeled as bias. i.e. the coverage of Biden's cognitive decline vs Trump's cognitive decline.

Trump just spoke with Rogan for three hours unscripted and showed none of the obvious cognitive decline that Joe did.

That's fine... For some, age does not really slow them down. For others it does. People just need to be real about it.

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