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Most can, although you probably don't want it. Updates on linux are already infinitely better than windows. That's not the question to ask. You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows.

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I have never heard or never had myself any problems with sleep on Linux laptops and i'm using Linux(Arch, Debian, Lubuntu) as my only driver for past 10 years

That's been my experience with Debian. I used to have problems with that stuff, but those went away years ago.

Well, on Thinkpad (which, unlike many, is actually intended to support Linux users) you have to specifically charge something in BIOS to make it work, so one at least has to be aware. Also, I have some old Asus lying around, which after some update started having a lot of trouble with both going to sleep and waking up. Never figured out what it was, I didn't really need it anymore, so now it's just lying somewhere in the closet, maybe will use it for something someday.

So, no, "no problems" is a bit of overselling it.

>You should ask if a laptop goes to sleep on linux, will it wake up ? Nobody knows.

I've only been using Linux for 20 years so can you explain what you mean by this?

Modern sleep (s0ix) is a mess on linux. Laptops will either not sleep, or sleep but not wake up, or drain the battery while they are asleep, or peripherals won't work after they wake up, or monitors won't light up, or things won't be where you left them on the monitor, or wifi or bluetooth won't work after resume, or they'll get stuck in a low frequency mode, ....

Modern sleep also drains your battery and heats up your laptop on Windows too (but not most of the other problems). I miss the days when you could put a sleeping laptop in a bag, but now, on Windows, you have to either re-enable hibernation (for however long they allow that), or fully shut down. Modern sleep was a mistake.

Would you believe I've had all of these problems in Windows on a Surface Pro? Modern sleep was a mistake.

If you have never had such issues (not had them and fixed them, that doesn't count), consider yourself lucky...

Or the issue that currently annoys the hell out of me: if I disconnect my laptop from the docking station and reconnect it, will it continue running or will it spontaneously restart (Dell laptop and docking station, Ubuntu 22.04, Wayland)?

And power management. Battery life is much worse on Linux

Always, always, always enable automatic security updates only every os on every install.

If they are infinitely better why wouldn't I want them? Sorry that's confusing.

You can opt for security only automatic updates which a lot of server admins do. However, if you are running something in production, you don't want to risk any breakage due to an automatic update. This is independent of the operating system.

This. Security-only updates are the only ones I allow automatically. Broader updates are too risky to allow to happen without supervision. I think this is independent of the operating system being used.

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