> Pylons and Pyramid aren't that great.

interesting! what don't you like about Pyramid? you're aware it is not a continuation of the Pylons codebase, right?

Ok, fair enough, do you have any argument on what "flask does better" than pyramid? Because as far as i can tell, pyramid does more and better out-of-the-box - like extensible permission system.

I would really love to know what IS better in flask, especially since Pyramid oficially supports Py3 and PyPy, and that also seems to be a big thing to me.