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Naples, Rome, Milan, Genoa, and Turin are just cities in Italy; I'm not sure what's childish about that. They have to use something for codenames.

The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames. That brand name has been used since 2017 but if you don't know that, it sounds quite gamery nowadays.

Admittedly I also have no idea why Intel calls theirs Xeon, which sounds like misspelled xenon. But then it might be a proper Greek word?

Trademarks are easier if they are not words (no prior use or conflicts), but having them be like words is easier so people can say them.

> The criticism is about "EPYC" not about the codenames.

The criticism above says "Turin, Epyc and lord knows what else". That clearly includes the codenames.

Whats wrong with an arbitary 16 digit number?

I'm sure each of the products has a numeric identifier. One can use that if they feel pressed by the "childish" names.

AMD CPUs have pretty small numbers for that, e.g. 100-000000651 or 100-000000789. They almost look wrong with so many zeroes. Zen/+/2 parts have part numbers like YD160XBCM6IAE (which is similar to the part numbers of much older AMD CPUs, which is apparently the AMD Ordering Part Number, OPN, scheme, and every digit codes information about the CPU). Zen 3 started with the new scheme, which just seem to be sequential development numbers. E.g. 3800X is 100-000000022. Here's a list: https://mkdev.info/?p=1245

They left enough leading zeros in there to make room for future revisions until the death of the universe.

Just use scientific notation. :-)

5318008

They're hard to understand and memorize.

The marketing departments of monitor manufacturers still haven't figured this one out yet.

Ah, I was unsure if it was named after the city or the [Tolkien character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%BArin_Turambar).

This is lazy criticism and honestly, I'll take a name like Epyc over Intel Core Ultra 7 258V or Ryzen AI 9 HX 370.

> Looks like the folks downvoting me are massive, massive fans of that THREADRIPPER architecture.

Yes, it must be everybody else, not your comment, which is the pinnacle of deep analysis. Get real, dude.

Intel's naming isn't great, but it's pretty clear. Look at Wikipedia's List of Intel Processors[1] and for 14 generations since 2010, the higher the model number, the faster the processor. The model number like 13700 starts with the generation (13th) and then place in that (700 is upper-mid). Then a capital letter indicating something about form factor.

Compare with List of AMD processors[2] and a "70xx" model could be a Zen Naples Epic, A Zen 2 Mendocino Ryzen, a Zen 2 Rome Epyc, a Barceló-R Ryzen Zen 3, a Milan Epyc Zen 3, a Rembrandt-R Zen 3+, a Zen 4 Raphael Ryzen or Storm Peak Threadripper, or a laptop Ryzen. Wikipedia people can't even put these into a table to compare them, it's pages of random names and overlapping/re-used numbers.

Apple, as usual, have M1, M2, M3 and each one has plain/pro/max/ultra.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_processors#Lates...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_processors

> I'll take a name like Epyc over Intel Core Ultra 7 258V or Ryzen AI 9 HX 370.

Well no, the comparison to "Epyc" is "Intel Core" and "Ryzen"

And if you gave each SKU its own name I think that would very quickly get worse than the stupid numbering schemes.

I think you’re seeing downvotes because your criticism seems painfully uninformed and uninteresting to boot.

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