Review: ReMarkable Paper Pro
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When I bought the RM2 it was without subscription. I dislike their cloud pricing and the lack of any features in the web UI.
Ideally I would like to have LLM integration, they can send a screenshot of the scratchpad to the model as context, it would be able to parse text and mind-maps from image.
* I understand that some people have concerns about the brand's security practices and affiliations, but I went further and completely locked it down from public cloud features.
How hacker-friendly is the Note Air? Is it heavily locked-down or is it more on the open side?
It's an incredibly good scratchpad and is fine for reading papers. The epub reflow and layout is incredibly slow though, and PDFs suck because you can't resize them.
If I didn't have kids/made more money I'd probably buy the Pro but that's not my life now.
- while the total resolution is slightly higher on the RMPP (229 PPI) compared to RM 1/2 (226 PPI), the effective resolution is lower, especially for ebooks/PDFs. When you have text on say grey background you can barely read the text on the RMPP while there is no problem on RM 1/2.
- starting with RMPP there is coil whining (not loud but you hear it in quite settings)
- while the advertising sais "Can render 20,000 colors", you have actually a very limited number of colors when it comes to one pixel. Colorful images or highlighted text is being rendered quite coarsly as on those cheap 7-color e-ink devices (but faster and with higher resolution)
- you can't use the (quiet expensive) pen which works for RM 1/2
- the software feels quite unfinished in a lot of aspects. This is hard to summarize of course but includes very slow processing of and poor interaction with ebooks/pdfs or the close to non-existing integration of typed text.
- without the cloud it's hard to get documents on your device. The web interface is fiddly and for some documents it simply doesn't work.
On the plus side you get root access on a relatively native Linux system and there is a community providing cool stuff [0]
After getting the rM2, I carried it. All of my notes are there, they're sharable from "the cloud", and I screen-share with it on Zoom calls for work when there's a need to diagram.
> What is so good about ReMarkable?
All of their products are, first and foremost, an "electronic paper notebook". They're designed to replace physical pen/pencil-and-paper. If that's what you want to use it for, you'll be happy with it.
> I would never use it for writing only reading white and black text with no images
I'd steer you toward an rM2 then, unless you absolutely need the backlight. They seem to be going for about $300 in like-new condition on the used market, so now is a good time to buy.
As for using it as an eReader, they work well in some cases and adequately in others.
PDF support is excellent - >90% of my eBook collection is uploaded to my reMarkable account in PDF format. It looks exactly the same on the device as it does printed, navigation works, and documents are easy to "mark up" using the pen.
EPUB support is... well, adequate. I think it's running a script in the backend the first time you open an EPUB file that converts it to PDF. Changing the font size does the same. For the rM2, this process could take a second or so for most documents and up to about 15 seconds for 500-ish page books. I've not empirically tested this, but the RPP seems to be much faster in this regard.
Note that DRM is not supported. That means you'll have to do the import/strip/export dance with Calibre if you have a collection of Kindle books to transfer.
There are also no integrated "stores", so you'll have to acquire your files elsewhere. I use Kobo for a lot of things. If Kobo doesn't have it - or if they don't have it DRM-free - I try to buy directly from the author. Failing that, I'll buy it on Kobo or Amazon then go download a PDF from libgen or similar.
I agree I think this is what it's doing behind the scenes. If you use the pen to mark up the book, it will be also saved as a PDF.
I love using my Remarkable as an e-reader. I've never been one to "write in the margins" because I like to keep my books clean, but this has been a surprising great feature of the Remarkable to me. I can write all over the PDF or epub and it saves as a copy (instead of overwriting the original).
If you're only going to read on it, and only white and black text, I'd recommend a Remarkable 2 instead as it's much cheaper.
An important caveat: I refuse to buy DRMed media, so all my e-books work on any device. They are almost entirely epubs or PDFs. If you buy stuff from the Kindle store then you won't be able to read them on the ReMarkable unless you strip the DRM.
But for READING I would not go for a ReMarkable. They can't do Adobe DRM'd ePubs, they can't do library books and ePub support in general seems really subpar. Makes way more sense to get an Elispa or Boox model.
For what it's worth: the reason it needs those tips is they are what helps it feel like writing on paper, but the tips can be put into third-party stylos - if you search Reddit or elsewhere you'll find plenty of people discussing alternatives.
The new marker requires charging. It is not compatible with the Remarkable 2 or other e-ink tablets like the Kindle Scribe. Look at the features on the store page, both the Marker and Marker+ talk about wireless charging.
Also, from their FAQ about the Marker:
Will other digital pens work on reMarkable Paper Pro? No. The new Markers have been custom-built for reMarkable Paper Pro’s Canvas Color display. Other digital pens, such as the Markers for reMarkable 2 or those developed by third parties, aren’t compatible with reMarkable Paper Pro. For more details, see our compatibility guide.
Gives me another reason I'll be happily sticking with my RM2 and not considering an upgrade, though not 100% sure which I'd choose if buying new now (probably still the older one).
They have introduced a new, proprietary stylus that requires charging. And it’s incompatible with any other device, including previous ReMarkables.
and USI seems to be about interoperability https://universalstylus.org/ , at least within that ecosystem.
Microsoft did a similar switch with their surface tablets, which were initially wacom based, and switched to a different tech that also required batteries in their pens, so this isn't without precedence.
I used to use an iPad and a piece of paper, and really like the idea of writing on the device. I don’t need the program to check for me, I trust my self check.
It sounds like it's more for authoring cards on the tablet than it is for reviewing.
[0] https://blog.afandian.com/2020/10/pipes-and-paper-remarkable...
The backlight isn't "bright" - it's "just bright enough to be usable". I wasn't expecting eye-searing anyhow given the overall character of the reMarkable product line. They're defined by what they do not include more than what they do.
Intriguing device, and a growing hacker community... I want to play with it a bit more to decide if it fills the niche for me.
There's plenty of other reviews dated a month ago however.
For example consider the top level comment by jfim. Right now HN is telling me that it is 2 hours old when viewed from the main article view. It also says 2 hours old if I click on the comment's timestamp to view the comment separately.
But if I click "reply" then on the reply composition screen it says that comment is 1 day old.
The article itself says it is from 11 hours ago, but checking on search I see it was actually 3 days ago.
So first question is where does the 11 hours ago come from? Is that when the article was given a second chance?
How about the 1 hours ago for jfim's day old comment? If the article got its second chance 11 hours ago and I had looked at it 10 hours ago, what time would it have shown for that comment?
Are the fake times stored in the DB, or does it generate them algorithmically when it shows a second chance article? Why does the reply page show the original date?