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When “Out Come The Wolves” by Rancid hit 20 years I was starting to feel my age.

I just saw Rancid, Smashing Pumpkins and Green Day. All on the same tour. It was amazing to have that much of the first half of my life in one stadium.

Green Day are still in their prime in terms of a live show. Yeah it’s not 3 kids packing a basement anymore, but they absolutely crushed Dookie in their 50s. I felt not old for a couple of hours.

Me too (Oracle Park), and I also relate to the not feeling old for a couple of hours - except the few times when I saw parents bring their kids to this show, and the kids were definitely not older than like, nine or ten, and were (!) mouthing the words to songs from Dookie.

"Energy" is 35. Feeling old yet? If so, go to the Punk Rock Museum in Vegas. They did us right.

I love this album. So many catchy songs. I prefer it to dookie too.

Everything after it was kind of a disaster though. Although I do have a soft spot for Indestructible.

Life Won't Wait and 2000 were fun!

Easily top 5 punk album of all time.

Not punk. Punk is about being bad at your instrument and looking ugly and being the underdog and still creating a community. When Dookie came out, every highschool and college kid was lined up to buy it, it had constant airplay, and was blasting in every classroom and dorm room. That's not punk: that is 100% mainstream pop. Which is Green Day in a nutshell. Commidified dissent x100.

I was talking about And out come the wolves, and still punk to me. Pixies is punk, replacements is still punk to me. No need to be a purist.

College Alternative is not Punk.

I went to Pixies concerts when I was at BU in the 80's. They were a rich white kid college band.

Punk was a very specific movement.

It's like saying, "Yeah, impressionism is same as Cubism." No. It isn't. Don't rewrite history because it suits your invented personality.

Oh wow, I realized it's turning 30 next year and my back just started hurting.

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