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Dude, the point is

> "I try to replace my Macbook with a different laptop and linux. But the "finish" that the Apple products have is unmatched."

Having to install three programs and a language runtime AND ALSO configure them, and have one of the programs be a fork because you want "instant" feedback while changing volume (instead of having to wait until the end of the scroll) is absurd. It isn't simply "lol install 3 programs and it Just Works" - getting everything to interface with each other and then scripting everything up is a chore.

It's a bloody shame that something this time-consuming is necessary for something that comes out of the box in other mainstream OSes.

But of course your comment history is mostly one line zingers so why do I bother.

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Like having to install skhd for things that are simple and built-in on Linux?

I had to install it to have it run a command on ctrl + alt + t.

Let's be honest, very little is "built-in" on Linux. What you guys are referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

i'd say fedora is a pretty complete packaged distro

Yeah - I understand GP's point. It was just too good an opportunity to meme :)

I use coreutils, fish, & LLVM what now Stallman?

....and that's fine. We're not talking about the XNU kernel but the end-product OS that reaches users.

A distro is the appropriate comparison in this scenario, and Pop_OS! or Ubuntu are about as easy as can be.

EDIT: /facepalm, just realized the Stallman meme hehe

I install and configure at least around 20 packages/extensions/tweaks on Linux, macOS, and Windows. Another 10+ browser extensions per browser. That’s not even listing the apps themselves (the ones that aren’t primarily a utility or tool).

There isn’t an OS that’s good to go out of the box. But the Apple hardware on a MacBook is completely unparalleled; people acting like there’s anything like it on the windows side are delusional. As are the apps (from the store, from the internet, from GitHub, and from brew). The quality is just much better, and so is the likelihood of finding an existing app/utility for a niche use case. Many packages on Linux are just binaries without even so much as a TUI, let alone a GUI (NordVPN). Oh ya Brew, also substantially more pain-free than other package manager experiences.

> Oh ya Brew, also substantially more pain-free than other package manager experiences.

No joke - I have never heard someone that uses multiple package managers praise Brew. If you have to use it in a larger org, across system architectures or are versioned across system upgrades, it is the single most fragile package manager you can employ. pamac, apt, rpm and eopkg all wipe the floor with Brew.

Nix and Macports are a bit better, but anyone that's used a proper package manager knows Brew is a lightweight.

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