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Hyprland 0.44

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I had to go to the project's GitHub repo for a semblance of a description. For the uninitiated:

> Hyprland is an independent, highly customizable, dynamic tiling Wayland compositor that doesn't sacrifice on its looks. It provides the latest Wayland features, is highly customizable, has all the eyecandy, the most powerful plugins, easy IPC, much more QoL stuff than other compositors and more...

also from wiki:

A Wayland compositor is a fully autonomous Display Server, like Xorg itself.

...

Wayland compositors should not be confused with Xorg window managers.

Amongst the Wayland compositors Hyperland is a dynamic WM, unlike KDE and X.

"movetoroot" is discodant - it deletes information.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/hyprland-git

I tried the website’s logo/“home” button in the top-left and did go to the homepage, but also got an autoplay video - yikes! On mobile it’s a very jarring experience to have the whole screen start playing a video demo

I've been running hyprland on NixOS for more than a few months now as my main system (also used for work!)

It's been remarkably reliable. There are definitely rough edges, but it's been a pleasure to use in general. It even works very smoothly with Microsoft teams, even screensharing works perfectly!

Not planning on moving to anything else anytime soon, wonderful experience and I'm glad to be one of the earlier adopters of a wayland-first system.

I run all my desktops on it, i even did a crappy nixos config to use it and the linux jellyfinmediaplayer app on an n100 attached to tv. I really need to better understand nixos is what i discovered from that.

its a great tiling window manager

Been using hyprland on wayland for about a year now and the biggest issue is the constant config changes. It seems every version changes the config file, and you have to resolve the new errors and find the new knobs to turn.

That and I can't get my mouse cursor big enough or colorful enough -- and more of a wayland issue is that the pointer will change depending on window.

I don't really use it to its fullest extent though

> the biggest issue is the constant config changes. It seems every version changes the config file, and you have to resolve the new errors and find the new knobs to turn.

I also maintain a very popular tiling window manager now (after years of suffering through breaking configuration changes with other twms) and this is the one thing that I will not budge on as a maintainer: Breaking configuration changes are unacceptable. Period.

From the contribution guidelines on the project README[1]:

> Breaking changes to user-facing interfaces are unacceptable

> ...

> No user should ever find that their configuration file has stopped working after upgrading to a new version of komorebi.

[1]: https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi?tab=readme-ov-file#breaki...

been also using komorebi on my windows for some time, I was really pleased to see how I could just update it with the rest of my apps through winget and it just works:tm:. Thanks for the amazing work. However don't you fear to get to a kind of CMake state with a "old" and "new" way to get things done being both available for the sake of backwards compatibility becoming quite a mess ?

> However don't you fear to get to a kind of CMake state with a "old" and "new" way to get things done being both available for the sake of backwards compatibility becoming quite a mess ?

Right now there is support for dynamic configuration through commands executed through a script at startup (like bspwmrc etc), and declarative configuration through a static file which can be hot-reloaded.

Basically all new features and documentation are declarative-first, and there is a command that can generate a declarative configuration file from a running instance configured using a dynamic configuration script.

So if you're new to the project, you probably don't even know that the older configuration method is a thing, and if you come back to the project with a very old dynamic config script after a long time, everything you remember still just works, and you're just a command away from migrating to the format that everyone else is now using.

That being said, there is definitely a whole bunch of code that I would love to get rid of some day :)

It seems they are no longer using wlroots. This is news to me. This makes it something more than a slightly polished sway reimplementation and maybe worth taking a look at.

https://hyprland.org/news/independentHyprland/

The developers of hyprland and wlroots had some conflicts: https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html

ddevault isn't involved with wlroots for a few years now. The tiff between hyprland and wlroots / freedesktop was because of https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2024-fdo-and-redhat . See also https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2024-wlrootsRewrite

How much I would love to be able to use this. Every few years, I try to replace my Macbook with a different laptop and linux. But the "finish" that the Apple products have is unmatched.

Specially the keyboard/trackpad support. It's always been underwhelming with Linux. I know this is a subjective take and it's unrelated to Hyprland.

I hope that my next laptop can finally be the final step off to the Linux laptop, because I would love to use Hyprland.

I didn't jump back since the M1s. We are not ready to jump again battery, energy control, and fanless wise. I often read about the experience with Qualcomm in Samsung, Surface, Lenovo, and Acer devices. It is clear far far away. Asahi Linux is not the answer either.

Why is Asahi not the answer? I'm seriously considering it.

Because it is not ready either? [1].

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/AsahiLinux/comments/1atrb13/im_reco...

This is what’s keeping me as well. I’m ending up writing my config to run on macOS AND Debian because I need the battery life when I’m out and about.

If you want polish, don't use a build-it-yourself desktop. You are responsible for adding the "magic" on a lot of these desktops, and if you don't do the work you generally don't reap the reward.

KDE and GNOME both work out-of-box for most features and configurations. If you don't try to chase the r/UnixPorn dream you can end up with usability in spades.

This has changed drastically in the last couple of years. The Asus G series and Razer blade series are both very close. If you’re in 14”, check the G14 (razer doesn’t do oled). If you’re in 16 — compare the G16 and Blade 16.

I use custom external keyboards though, so maybe I’m not the best reference for your specific complaints.

Can confirm, I love my Linux 2024 g14 to death, and prefer using it over my MacBook. The latest updates in Arch fixed the suspend issues.

How long does the battery run? What GPU/CPU do you got?

fwiw, it runs great on a M1 macbook air

I tried Arch+Hyprland a few months ago and it was rife with issues. Things like not being able to drag files between two windows and random crashes sending me back to login.

Pop OS's built-in tiling manager doesn't have these problems and it has a toggle for alternating between floating and tiled, which is helpful at times. It gets me to where I want MacOS to go without any of the exhaustive setup and just works.

As much as I would like to go with Hyprland for the fancy animations and stuff I don't have the patience for instability or configuration files breaking after updates. I am on team Cosmic for now.

I've been running Arch+Hyprland on my laptop for very nearly 1.5 years. For whatever reason, I've not had the negative experience you describe; it's run buttery-smooth and reliably for me. I like it.

I've been running Hyprland for a while now. I find its window management capabilities quite good, in particular, the default 1 LHS / n RHS setting -- I lack the desire to deal with binary trees; the window manager should manage the windows, not me.

That being said, I am a W^X person so I don't really like some of the (x86_64-specific) aspects of their plugin systems. I need to publish my #ifdef-it-out-with-fire patch at some point...

W^X? I've never seen that term

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%5EX

I've been using Hyprland for about a year, and it's pretty great. I only wish there were more official layouts, kinda like XMonad. But it's very possible to add a plugin or use IPC to add just about any functionality you want. I think it's just a matter of time before window managers start being built on top of Hyprland

If you want to give it a spin look at MyLinux4work on YouTube. He has an installer that works with Arch and Fedora (Fedora support comes from a repo from someone else)

Looks super nice. I don't even like animation usually but these look fast and buttery smooth. I wish I had this for Mac OS

I'd love to try this, but a few months ago I tried Wayland and half of the stuff wasn't working :/

I still don't understand the selling point of Wayland. Something about screen-tearing? Surely that wouldn't require throwing out the whole thing. Something about "security"?

To this day, Wayland has problems that X never had, particulary screen-sharing or window management being dependent on the compositor implementation. What problems does this solve?

Is it a window manager?

I don't actually see a landing page anywhere that explains what Hyprland is :)

If you go to the homepage: https://hyprland.org/

It says "Tiling Compositor" as its first words. That's what it is.

It's not a "window manager" since that's an X11 term, and this is a Wayland Compositor, not an X11 Window Manager.

I feel like the landing page explains very clearly what it is for the target audience, which is someone who uses wayland and knows what a tiling compositor is.

does zoom screen sharing works? it's the only thing preventing me from daily driving it

no, but i use app.zoom.us as workaround

Zoom screen sharing just crashes randomly on literally every setup I've tried, including Windows.

Just stick to the web version, it's way more stable

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