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Your comment comes off as extraordinarily defensive and projective.
> oh, so you are "one of those"
It starts off here, immediately from a judgemental and pompous position. You immediately generalize me, then project several ideas and behaviors onto both me and the people I interact with.
> You even have paragraphs about how vegetables and meat are basically the same in every way - except for flavor, nutrition, taste, enjoyment
Reread the comment. I and the other commenter were discussing preparation time, and only preparation time and shelf-life. Please do not project a straw man argument onto me, I said nothing regarding flavor, nutrition, taste or enjoyment or them being "the same in every way".
But since you bring it up, I do love the flavor of many vegetables, I can get my full proteins and nutrition from plant sources, and I enjoy cooking and eating them.
> P.S. Fishing is destroying massive amounts of ecosystems, too.
Absolutely! And we should also severely limit our fish intake. I see that you're trying to justify your own lifestyle by attempting to point out hypocrisy within mine, however your assumptions about my diet are flawed.
> Might be time to bite the bullet and just do veganism. Then you can lord over the lowly cheese eaters and pescos.
And the grand stroke, in which you proved yourself to be exactly the kind of ignorant, judgemental person I just described, who gets defensive and triggered over conversations about reducing meat intake. Please keep your generalizations to yourself.
What a disgusting comment.
I latched on to your response to this, and pointing out your words are why people think you're "one of them vegans". the key word in that is "them", or as i used it, "those."
The interesting thing, here, is: the only thing you know about me is that i avoid alcohol. and you ascribe a lot of things to me based on the fact that i caught on to your demeanor. Yeah, i was a bit caustic. I don't know that it matters, though, it seems like you're used to it.
And you mentioned storage (in the GP), and how "we shouldn't be eating [meat] daily anyhow" (in this comment), and we should "severely limit fish intake." I'm sure if prodded you can rattle off the 15 plants that give 90% of all the nutritional value humans need (as can i, but that's neither here nor there.) And then taste and nutrition is mentioned in this comment as well. It's not like i can predict the future, i've just heard this all before.
I'm just giving back to you the same judgemental claptrap that i read in your first comment, and now subsequent one as well.
Again, you don't know anything about me or my diet or ideology. But I know yours. It's funny how that works.
Nor did I make a claim as to any aspect of your lifestyle.
> you ascribe a lot of things to me based on the fact that i caught on to your demeanor
I'd ask you to point out examples, but you clearly have no interest in a serious discussion. You came here to derail the discussion, apply ad hominem, attempt (and fail) to point out hypocrisy, introduce straw man arguments, generalize against me and vegans, and much more. In short, you're just looking to insult a group of people.
There is no benefit for me to continue engaging with such an obvious, low-effort comment. If you had any intention of having a fruitful discussion, you would have approached this much differently. You should have more respect for this community and the values it wishes to uphold when engaging in online discussion.
>> I see that you're trying to justify your own lifestyle by attempting to point out hypocrisy within mine
/shrug
p.s. the "demeanor" includes playing victim to all the nasty brainwashed meat-eaters.
2. At no time did I say that meat eaters are brainwashed. This is a straw man argument from you.
What I said was that America eats far, far too much meat, and that is objectively true based on certain indicators such as the effect of the scale of our industrial farming on the climate or animal welfare. If hearing this triggers you, it says more about yourself than anyone else. Facts don't care about your feelings, I'm sorry.
If that's all you had to cherry-pick from my last comment, then I think we're done here. Please stop trying to extend this argument.