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> After "bootle cap attached to the bottle" EU law

Am I the only person who thinks this is just fine and indeed a good idea? Minor tweak to lid manufacturing that aids recycling and disposal and is useful as a user of the bottle by ensuring the lid doesn't get lost. Though going by internet commentary it's apparently a huge imposition that totally ruins bottled drinks. May well be a silent majority thing? If many like me looked at it once and went 'huh interesting change, seems reasonable' they're not jumping onto to twitter to talk about it.

As for the subject of the article it's just an idea from a Dutch PhD student hardly a serious EU proposal.

I'm less positive; when badly implemented it can mean that it's hard to get the bottle cap correctly attached - I had a bottle of sparkling water which literally went flat within a couple of hours recently because I reattached the bottle cap incorrectly.

But in the grand scheme of things it's fine. Not something I'd especially fight to implement, but also not something I object to.

Nah, I also love them, and was always annoyed when I got one of the old bottles. The attached caps are far more convenient.

My (unsubstantiated) thought is that the people complaining drink too much soda, as the complaints I saw didn’t change between Coca-Cola doing it way in advance, and now.

I assumed it was an innovation - I’m in the US at the moment and amazing how annoying it is not to have he cap just sit next to the lid.

>this is not funny any more. Few more "initiatives" like this and EU will disintegrate.

You undermine yourself when you don't use serious examples. The EU would disintegrate over something like a divided approach to the Ukraine-Russia war or defence policy, the austerity measures imposed on Greece after 2008, the Euro collapsing in value with a divided approach on how to fix it etc. Bottle caps?

Sometimes trivial everyday issues can be the most powerful because they can cut across existing ideologies. Debates around serious monetary, economic and military issues generally sharpen conflict around existing partisan lines rather than exposing new ones.

But the bottle cap thing, it works. It's obviously difficult when people imagine that they are to tear the bottle cap off, but once you understand that the bottle cap is intended to stay on there's no problem.

Many drinks are awkward to consume with the bottle cap on. The harsh plastic of the cap often uncomfortably rubs on the area around the mouth. Especially when the bottle is at a steeper angle.

It took about a month to get used to.

Try pouring it into a glass.

I just tried. Made a right mess. The bottlecap clearly is not properly designed for hydrodynamics. It splits the flow and stores liquid when you stop pouring your hand will get wet from left over liquid...

so just hold it before filling the glass, it's not rocket science

I’d sincerely like to hear arguments against the bottle cap law? Is the trope just that because it sounds like ridiculous minutiae it must be useless, or what?

Personally I find the attached caps handy. :)

I find them irritating in "household items" such as milk cartons.

I really like them in bottles though: bo chance of dropping the cap to the ground.

I feel like a lot of hate is there because many manufacturers, predictably, went for the cheapest and simplest solutions which made caps unwieldy.

Live ye not in fear. The new attached bottle caps have been field-tested and found not to be a lifestyle impediment.

What does the EU have to do with any of this. The article is riffing on a wacky and impractical idea a PhD candidate had.

The bottle cap thing was irritating the first few times, but really isn't that big a deal.

AFAIK, the EU has no competency over things like dividend withholding taxes (that's the member states).

What exactly is wrong with the EHIC?

In practice EHIC doesn't work. In my numerous private anegdotes, while abroad in EU a person always fallback into private visits and healthcare.

What the hell this article has to do with the EU? There's nothing, absolutely nothing in the article even mentioning the EU, "European" appears once.

Why did you decide to soapbox your grievances on something completely unrelated, without any connection to what you said?

> Few more "initiatives" like this and EU will disintegrate

Threatening revolution over bottle caps might actually be stupider than calling for banning washing machines.

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