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Do you have a source showing they are charging higher prices for non Teslas?

This is common knowledge. I don't have a link to send you, but I've just looked up the closest supercharger on the Tesla website and it charges 0.55$ / kWh for NACS vehicles, while in my Tesla app the same supercharger shows 0.42$ / kWh.

I feel bad for people who can't charge at home. I get to charge at my residential 11.5¢/kWh. Though I don't go far from home very often so I've never charged anywhere else. If I wasn't getting this rate the savings over gas would get a lot narrower.

My electric plan has free evenings so I charge for free!

I'm surprised crypto bros haven't bought every house in your neighborhood

It’s a Texas plan not specifically for a neighborhood

Ditto

As much of an EV enthusiast as I am, I tell people that if they can't charge at home, don't get an EV.

I'm in a similar boat, my electricity is I think 11 cents/kWh. $8.25 to completely charge my battery, which will then get me ~250 miles. The cost-per-mile is equivalent to getting over 125 mpg.

I’ve been driving EVs for six years now and I do not have the ability to charge at home or work. It’s been a non-issue. I charge late at night and it’s about $0.18/kWh which is still way less than gas.

Obviously it’s more convenient if you can charge at home or work, but I disagree that such a thing is mandatory to own an EV.

Here in the bay area, my at home charging costs are very close to a supercharger. something like 35c vs 40c.

It's actually cheaper at supercharger, $.26 after midnight, but ~$.50 during off peak at home after all extra fees in SJ, even after selecting EV charging plan.

$.50/kWh? That's crazy. It's $0.22 in Palo Alto ($0.19 for the first 450 kWh/month). I didn't realize it was such a good deal compared to PG&E.

It was cheaper at home for a long time. But 1+ years ago, they kept jacking up the price for no apparent reason.

San Jose resident here, you shouldn't be paying that much. If you have a TOU plan it's something like 35¢/kWh off-peak and 50 or so during peak times. They do keep raising the prices for no reason but not that much (yet).

Do you have Silicon Valley Power in PA? I had it in Santa Clara a decade and a half ago, I swear it was like 8 cents at the time.

10 years ago, PG&E was 18 cents here. Now, 38+.

The price usually varies over the day; in the morning (until ~10am IIRC) and late at night here in the Seattle area it's 14¢/kWh for supercharging and my residential electricity is around 11¢/kWh.

But, if you can't charge at work nor at home, EV car isn't worth it.

Seems strange, in Europe where Tesla chargers are open to all CCS2 vehicles, the prices are the same for everyone. On most chargers you can just tap your payment card to start the charge, although I think you can get cheaper rates as a member too.

I mean, the EU and the US have _extremely_ different views on competition regulation (or, at least, different enthusiasms for it; the actual philosophy isn't that different, but the FTC has been basically moribund since the late 90s, whereas the EC is if anything getting more aggressive lately).

> On most chargers you can just tap your payment card to start the charge

This will be mandatory as of next year.

> although I think you can get cheaper rates as a member too.

AIUI this will no longer be permitted as of next year.

From the article: GM is also updating its brand apps to allow customers to search for available Superchargers, check station status, initiate a charge, and pay for charging sessions. Tesla has said that non-Tesla owners would have to pay a little more to charge their vehicles than Tesla owners.

In Europe Tesla offer a subscription that gives you the same prices as Teslas get. Otherwise you pay more. Of course Tesla then makes a profit on the subscription cost.

It's in the article: "Tesla has said that non-Tesla owners would have to pay a little more to charge their vehicles than Tesla owners."

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