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> Remarkable 2 and gave up it almost solely because it didn't support USB mass storage, making it really annoying to transfer files

We had hoped to buy these for all our paperless office employees, and gave it up almost solely because it was far too easy to transfer files.

If they deliver a device with on-device encryption (as this claims) and sync or manual transfer tied (and locked) to company-owned storage, we'd buy them for all our Pro(fessionals).

To your point, instead we give our professionals iPad Air with Paperlike™ for pencil-feel and a keyboard for on-the-go use. We'd rather (for reasons) give them Remarkable Pros if it was capable of meeting Professional data-loss-prevention (DLP) needs.

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Let me ask you this in all seriousness and with minimal snark - do you confiscate employees paper notebooks when they leave the company?

We expect people to have a labbook per project. They are logged when handed out, and signed back in at the end of the project.

For a science/engineering firm, this sort of arrangement isn't uncommon, because stuff you do in the lab leads to customer deliverables.

Of course, people can also do things electronically, which they increasingly do.

There are jobs where producing a paper notebook is the primary deliverable. Fewer than there were, due to y'know, computers. But it still happens.

It's odd to describe that as confiscation. A lab notebook belongs to the lab, not the researcher, this is understood by both parties. They may or may not have permission to leave the lab with it, but making personal copies of the pages would be espionage.

It's perfectly reasonable to want comparable properties in a paper-replacing device. I can see where you might find that jarring if you haven't been exposed to work conditions where it's normal and expected.

I worked at company that required all paper notebooks to be handed in and destroyed. There are entire companies based on destroying sensitive paper documents.

They know that smartphone have cameras?

employees often aren't allowed to have them onsite in these circumstances for this precise reason.

I hope you don't mind this bit of feedback - your comment comes off as snarky, which may not be what you intended.

People are talking about their experience in sensitive areas, and so restrictions on devices you can bring in/out is fairly typical.

If you can transfer gigabytes of data with a paper notebook then I’m really impressed! But seriously this is similar to banning usb flash drives and the like, it’s not that unusual.

I used to work at a federal contractor. Any paper you bring to the building /never/ leaves again. I liked to keep notes in a legal pad and would just shred them.

This isn't unreasonable or unheard of in some contexts, especially anywhere requiring a security clearance.

As you see in sibling replies, in many industries where a given hand writable concept has intellectual property value readily assessed in the millions to billions, and/or the deliverable itself may be in written or sketch form, it's quite often true that:

(a) employees aren't allowed to have/use their own paper notebooks in the first place

(b) if they do, then, yes, the notebooks don't leave unless Security reviews (if removal is even allowed)

However, any number of such traditional approaches stop working when remote work is a thing.

Technologies are needed if a firm wishes to retain the same level of awareness of what's happening to its IP while allowing employee flexibility (which, hopefully, firms are learning they should strive to allow).

They also stop working if employees are allowed to bring their phones into the building.

Not the OP, but eInk tablets are banned at our work for the same reason, and paper notebooks don't get destroyed.

I one of the reasons is it's easier for a malignant actor to get access to notes without you knowing when it's electronic. At least with a paper notebook you can tell if it's missing.

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