And working for money to participate in organized society is objectively easier than going off grid.
I'm not saying working in early mills or factories was fun, but it beat the hell out of subsistence living so much that people opted for that to remaining in the hinterlands --this still is the case in modern China --that's why there are so many illegal internal migrants moving to city manufacturing sectors.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591
Modern people tend to never be aware of how many hunter gathers live long fit healthy lifestyles.
I know there are some !Kung who live alright as bushmen, in a mild climate, but it's not an easy life. Anyhow, more power to them if they remove all traces of modernity from their lives.
Logistic map (aka uncontrolled growth of population or overpopulation) is basically the fundamental source of suffering for all living things. Instead of planning for food, nature just overproduces demand and lets the weak starve to death and the average to just starve.
Rather than asking how it would support billions, we should ask how we are planning to not suffer in these numbers. Haven’t heard it regarding our current life style. Everyone tells us to reproduce more and pay more and more astronomic bills and loans, that’s it.
Personally, I would say a lifestyle that isn't just a thought experiment should answer one of
A) How do you support the current population of the planet like this?
B) How do you humanely reduce the population over time if you can't?
Obviously still value in thought experiments, but if you're talking about real life, ignoring those two questions gets a bit euthanasia/genocide-y pretty easily. "Every human being alive today not existing" should probably not pass the lifestyle test suite, right?The world’s a very big place with a hugely diverse set of possible “valid” lifestyles (and limited ability to influence their reality). So what’s the big deal with proposing that maybe for some people a return to the land or to subsistence is a legitimate option?
A system with free agents is very prone to painting itself into a corner, it’s unstable by design. One of the issues that we have is that on the brink of catastrophe we are still asking ourselves whether the less carastrophic measures are ethical. But times of “we do what we want” end with the last decent square mile allocated for crops and housing.
We’re at such hard physical limits for the first time, so it will take a couple of world wars to figure out new rules, I guess.
often ?
Is that a first person observation, guesswork, or dubious inference on the basis of sparse evidence of occasional battles in some parts of the world?
The certitiude of comments such as yours is always intriguing.
For reference, in the region in question there's no archealogical evidence of any pitched battles in the Tanimi and genetic evidence supports people arriving in various parts of Australia and pretty much staying where they got to tens of thousands of years back until the 1800's at least.
Aboriginal mitogenomes reveal 50,000 years of regionalism in Australia https://www.nature.com/articles/nature21416
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2016-09-22/world-first-s...
There is ample evidence for homicide among hunters and gatherers, though. We don't like to hear it, because the Noble Savage myth is still going strong.
https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/no-hunter-gat...
Yeah, we don't have a comprehensive record of every tribe ever. But violence is attested pretty well among those that we have.
Should they monitor people's pulse or heat signature? Should they have someone do rounds and monitor people, maybe poke those seemingly still?
This happened over a weekend. Discovered on a Tues.
What exactly are you asking for? Are families and friends soulless because sometimes people die alone at home without anyone noticing?
How is the company and how are coworkers supposed to care more? Are they supposed to act like gulags with daily roll-calls before and after work where you seek to find out if anyone escaped?
This was a lightly used floor of an office that had hybrid workers and it happened over a weekend. I really don't know what more you're asking for? Maybe you want cadaver dogs roaming the floors on a daily basis just in case?
Hmmm....trying to figure out why you think I'm blaming the company. I'm not really--the company is not your friend, and it's not your family, nor should it be.
// I really don't know what more you're asking for? //
I'm asking you and everybody who is reading this not to confuse the company with your family and friends. No matter how much time you take away from your friends and family and give to the company, the company will--and should!--fire you as soon as they can find a cheaper way to do your job. It absolutely does not care if you die at your desk and alone. Nor should it.
I can think of two separate friends of my family who lost adult children in this way. They died in their apartments and weren't found for close to a week. One of them was actually a childhood friend of mine.
Yes, this happens to all people but I believe it happens more often because complicate our lives.