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okay I'll bite...

Which hardware are you using that has more longevity than a typical Mac laptop?

I've become increasingly annoyed by the software deterioration, with my laptop losing gobs of power while "sleeping". The only thing stopping me from changing back to windows for my next laptop is (my perception of) the terrible hardware choices on that side.

My mental model for typical windows laptops is that they are worse brand-new (e.g. screen, trackpad, battery life) and have wildly worse longevity.

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It's about a specific issue known in the 2016+ laptops, I just don't want to carry the risk of this known issue bricking my laptop out of warranty. And still exists in the current ones.

I have a 2012 i7 Thinkpad T530, that is still useful. My whole life desktop machines are usually useful for about a decade. Cheap laptops don't seem to last more than 4-5 years at most, but the top end laptops built really well can last a long time. It's nice to hand useful technology down to family members also.

Low power sleep states seem to have been broken for many years in most laptops. Apple machines do not have this issue it appears.

there isn’t an “issue” beyond the TPM being a potential point of failure, and all x86 laptops nowadays have a similar TPM and similar point of failure.

What do you think happens if your AMD cpu dies? That cpu has a pluton security module inside and if it dies, bye bye bitlocker keys.

you’re getting downvoted because you’re spreading decade-old FUD from the days before the tech community had wrapped their head around TPM. Any secure system is going to be equally dead if your TPM dies and this very much includes every windows laptop etc.

There absolutely are issues, whether you accept it or not, and it is nothing to do with 'not trusting TPM'.

Apple SSDs engineered in the worst way possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbrLiGY4Cg

Exploding USB-C MacBook Ports Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAGnMR1aVuE

none of those have anything particular to do with the T2 chip and if the TPM in your windows laptop got clobbered you'd still lose all your data anyway. The physical shape of the SSD is irrelevant in that scenario since you lost the key to decrypt it regardless.

again, yes, I know rossman doesn't like apple laptops but this has nothing to do with the T2 chip being some hidden landmine or defect. People just aren't used to the idea of the TPM being a thing that controls their data integrity.

One if the issues is the t2 failing and dumping 13v into the SSD , destroying it. Nothing to do with fear of TPM.

Old ThinkPads wear like iron. Even some of the newer Lenovo ones with the crappy keyboards. I have one such from 2014, it was some guy's DJ machine before I bought it and it still works great.

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