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Watching the same dynamic play out in GenAI. Stability AI refused to cater to this crowd (the chief actual users of their models) and are paying like hell for it. The reality is that coomers ARE the market for a lot of GenAI, no matter how much puritans don't want to admit it.

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The coomers are also nearly entirely responsible for the success of

Home video

Payments on the Internet

Streaming video

HD streaming and downloadable video

The Patreon style business model

I wonder if you could almost add image-heavy social media to the list. I think the amount of tiktok and IG that boils down to looking at hot people is probably shocking.

cough tumblr cough

its incredible how different the West is to Japan

the lack of judeo-christian moral nannyism hardly means a dangerous society but a peaceful one

just look at all the accusations on X and calling Japan weird and worse

Are you saying Japan has a more relaxed stance on porn? Don’t they have government mandated censorship of nude images? I would call that more strict, not less.

They’d censor genitals in porn, but erotic cartoons involving children seem to be socially accepted? I don’t know, it’s hard to understand them.

IMO, the way it is that hard distinction between child and adult is simply not understood. East Asians in general age in way more linear and continuous manner than Europeans for whatever reasons, and that makes it just harder to agree that some people aren't like others.

then they created sex with tentacles

Genital-censorship laws in Japan are a fig leaf, barely ever upheld, afaik.

They are absolutely more relaxed with the type and amount of content getting published, and have been for a very long time. The likes of Miguel Angel Martin in Japan would be considered average, whereas in the west they shock the mainstream.

The anglosphere is still somewhat conditioned by the idea that comics are for kids; at the other end of the spectrum, the francosphere expects every comic to be an auteur-level masterpiece. East-Asians just see it as a product to sell: as long as they are correctly labelled, so that strong material ks not missold to kids, everything is fine.

I'm not a christian, but I wouldn't call this judeo-christian morals, just puritanism and purely an American mindset that is completely alien in other Western (mostly christian!) countries. I also don't associate puritanism with Israel either, so the "judeo" part is another misnomer.

I don't think Japan is a good example of sexual liberation. The fact they have women-only train cars immediately comes to mind.

I'd argue the mere fact that digital mosaic still exists in... well you know what I mean.

Not really. Midjourney has no coomers and still does incredibly well

StabilityAI suffered because of a good frontend and poor models for high quality, production grade imagery

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