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Having hate speech laws doesn't equate to the state giving takedown notices. More likely the individual will be prosecuted as has happened in the past few weeks of social unrest.

But that is my argument! In UK takedown notices are given by some non-profit organization (not state), or are covered by TOS violation. But it is just censorship!

> in the past few weeks of social unrest.

Compare how social media handled recent UK protests, and "summer of love" riots in 2020!

> and number of people imprisoned or punished is far greater than Russia or other countries.

Clearly not according to their source. Do you have any data to back up your claim?

> In 2022, over 21,000 individuals in Russia were penalized for such “offences”, with 2,307 given administrative detention and the rest heavy fines

> in year ending March 2022, there were 155,841 hate crimes recorded by the police in England and Wales

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/07/russia-20000-...

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-...

You’re comparing people penalized with number of recorded instances. Those are two wildly different statistics.

One figure refers to recorded "crimes", the other to actual imprisonments.

Do you understand that the two are simply not comparable, and that there's obviously no analogy here? Even the alleged offenses aren't even comparable.

This isn't just one extremely basic logical fallacy you're making, but two.

> UK has hate speech laws, and number of people imprisoned or punished is far greater than Russia or other countries.

I call counter-bullshit. Provide some source with numbers.

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