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How much is the subscription for the Garmin device? I'm curious because I bought my parents a personal locator beacon, since they are retired and hike constantly. It costs more up front but has no subscription, and I didn't want to gift something with a high recurring cost. There's no communication option, it's all or nothing - if it's activated they send the helicopters. On the plus side, it has a fixed 7 year battery life, so no need to worry about charging or it dying when you need it (if you remember the expiration date). I'm curious what Google will charge for their SOS feature and how it will compare to PLV or a satellite communicator.

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It's $120 per year or $15 per month. That covers the SOS, 10 text messages and unlimited check-in messages.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/837461/pn/010-06003-SU

One thing to bear in mind is that the iPhone based satellite connection is highly directional, meaning whoever is using it needs to be conscious and able to follow the on-screen instructions to align the phone with a certain point in the sky (within a few angular degrees.)

Whereas, in contrast, the Garmin inReach devices need "only" a clear sky view.

It's not cheap, about $12/month is cheapest plan, https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/837461. Pay 0.10c for tracking points, you have 10 text messages a month.

If you use it a lot, you'll start to increase your fees, I'm on the next higher plan which I think is $35/m. I should revisit that, it's a lot over a year ;-)

They have the basic devices (connect with phone, or emergency button), I have the one with maps built in. That one is awesome, it has worldwide city and trail maps. Maps works without a subscription, but I do use it for trips where there is no phone service more to get text messages.

They also charge you for time spent with service suspended. We finally canceled ours when my wife got an iphone with satellite SOS - it was pretty expensive for something we would typically use (activate, not actually use - we've never had to SOS) one or two months per year.

I assume you meant 10c and not 0.1c.

(See https://verizonmath.blogspot.com/)

yes, sorry

Which device did you choose for them?

I bought the Ocean Signal RescueME PLB1. It was the cheapest model I could find at REI. Not what I would necessarily choose for myself, but since it was a gift I wanted to buy it from a major retailer. I also got a basic model since all PLBs work in the same way and have similar capabilities. Higher price models only add features like strobe lights or additional test functions.

Thanks!

PLBs are not all or nothing.

You are supposed to register it with the local government org. In the US, that is the NOAA. When the PLB activates, the receiver which is either the Coast Guard or Air Force will attempt to contact you before they send the distress call to whatever local S&R there is. Obviously if they can't reach you, they will send help anyway.

I'm aware they will attempt to call you, I still think it is fair to call it all or nothing because the only reasonable response to a PLB activation with no response from the phone call is to assume someone is in mortal peril. If you do respond to the call, why did you activate the PLB when you could have called?

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