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I have never been less excited for a phone.

Maybe it's the One Plus 12 I'm holding, but this is a hard pass by me.

All I want is a flagship chip, Esim support and a headphone jack. But since earbuds are almost all profit we won't see jacks coming back.

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> and a headphone jack

Just use a USB-C adapter. No, it's not as good as if it was built in. Yes, it's good enough. Yes, they make charge+headphone adapters.

I dunno about your carry situation, but when I first lost access to the headphone jack on a Pixel I tried that USB-C stunt and the phone's edge came right to the top of my pocket causing the adapter to fulcrum back and forth, sometimes dislodging the plug and 100% worrying me that it's going to break my USB-C port

Hard. Pass.

Yeah I can definitely see that being a problem depending on your particular phone + headphones + pants situation. For me, I use the smallest phone I can buy (iPhone 13 Mini, currently) so it all tucks into my pocket, for the most part. The adapters still regularly break after ~6 months anyway.

Sucks they removed the port :(

Sony flagships fit these requirements (micro SD card slot, swim, flagship chip, esim, etc) but they unfortunately don't feel as polished in the software end. Not to mention Sony phones being very difficult to find.

One big concern I have is getting security updates quickly. If there’s a zero day issue, how would Sony act?

I don't think Sony is releasing new phones in the US anymore.

You can still order them online and they work fine.

They work fine depending on where you live, because they don't have the necessary band support for everywhere in the US.

I'm looking at either a 5a, or one of the Samsung budget phones since I don't care about the flagship chip. But I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last time getting a new phone where headphone jack is an option at all.

Take a look at the Nokia XR21. Headphone jack, esim, and incredibly rugged

Get Apple’s USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. It has a very good DAC for its price.

I personally found Best Buy's Insignia brand to be the most reliable one. I usually get 6-12 months of heavy use out of those, while Apple's usually broke after only a month or two.

The OnePlus 12 cost about the same as this phone when new, correct?

Correct.

I think the OnePlus 12 is the best Android phone for the money.

The Red Magic 9S is very close to perfect, but lacks Esim.

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