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With all the nasty drama inside the nixOS organization, while reading this "open letter" I can't help myself viewing this as some wolf playing as the sheep.

Let's cut the BS, they want money and the whole low key gaslighting about the " sovereignty of a European infrastructure", "country widening" and the whole "Look! USA, China or Russia are way ahead of you guys, you suck and are in danger, please give us money." tell us more about the nixOS organization than the EU one.

I'm not that salty I swear :) Just don't waterboard us with theatrics and BS when all you want is the money like anyone else.

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Everyone needs money, it doesn’t matter who you are and what your circumstances are. So to bring this up as an argument against someone is kind of pointless.

But someone needing money still needs to motivate the reasons-for to the money-giver. So this is perfectly valid.

I will go as a far as saying that your post portrays an ideologically skewed world-view by insinuating that wanting money is something “bad or morally tainted”.

But yes- of course the money-giver has the right to view the pros-and-cons of giving money and decide who receives it. Because the money-giver has the right to push an agenda according to their value system, by deciding who they give money to.

The open letter is about more than nixOS and appeals to the stated ideals of the EU.

> Everyone needs money, it doesn’t matter who you are and what your circumstances are. So to bring this up as an argument against someone is kind of pointless.

Yes, that's why my whole point of contention is not the money but the half-assed cheap tactics to get it.

> "and appeals to the stated ideals of the EU."

This whole letter looks like a toddler with an oversized business suit writing a letter to Santa. It's not the end of the World, it really doesn't matter that much. But I find it funny how they think the EU works and how they think this will get them money.

The people who wrote the original letter (https://ps.zoethical.org/pub/lettre-publique-aux-ncp-au-suje...) understand how the EU works just fine. Funny that; I live in Brussels and have that “Brussels specific expertise” some other commenter is talking about upthread. They noticed NGI was not present in a draft and wrote a call out addressed to NCPs (National Contact Points, the contact points of horizon calls) as feedback that the NGI scheme has been funding good project and it should remain prioritised.

What actually is your problem with it? Do YOU know how the EU works?

GP did not write that wanting money is something “bad or morally tainted”.

GP questioned the way in which money was asked for and whether NixOS deserved money due to internal drama. I do not know the politics of NixOS, but if they indeed harm dissenters like other software projects, that would be contrary to the original EU values and therefore they should not get money.

That was the argument as I understood it.

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