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I've watched many Apple TV+ shows and this never occurred to me. Confirmation bias on your end?

I'm not sure I follow. What's "the message"? Could you provide some specific examples?

I believe they are referring to what The Critical Drinker (a youtuber that does movie and TV shows critics) calls "The Message". He explains it here: https://youtu.be/F2ngB-zjVmM?feature=shared&t=105 (starting at 1:45, he defines it for 1 minute and 20 seconds)

Rather than it being about "the message" it seems to me more that big blockbusters are being funded/produced by people who have learned marketing better than film production. They're consistently rewarded for their marketing efforts and don't want to rock the profit boat by changing the formula.

There is definitely an argument to be made about the lack of script writing quality in the last few years.

I used to go to the cinema almost weekly, but since a few years ago it doesn't seem worth it: The stories being told are shiny but flat.

Now I just watch the "good ol' movies" at home...

What specifically would you describe as "peak woke" if you saw it in a show? Forgive me, but when you write so many words without giving any actual examples it is easy to assume that you know your position is unpopular and are glossing over the details on purpose.

They'll never outright say specifically what they have a problem with. It's always vague euphemisms like "peak woke" and "the message" and "the agenda."

It's just a troll, they specifically call out the shows containing peak woke and then said they don't subscribe to even have seen the content.

Not a troll. Honest opinion. Am I not allowed to have one of my own?

Specifically in this context/discussion I’d like to single out Foundation and Silo.

150% a troll, likely a parody of Woke Right by a Woke Left.

- Claims that are obviously wrong

- Brief survey of Apple TV shows this is 100% false (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41037962)

- repeated invocations of 'my feminist wife said its okay' (indicating Woke imprinting showing itself in a false flag)

- slowly hopping around subthreads, only moving on from one after generating 2+ more replies. took 30 minutes and 4 replies to name a specific show

Silo? The first season covers only the first half of the book. The book came out over 10 years ago and the show mainly follows the plot. Was the book peak woke? Is it just the female lead character?

Foundation is only loosely based on the books but I can’t see anything people could attribute to being “woke”, aside from having some female lead characters.

Maybe you just don’t like female lead characters in stories?

Hari Seldon? Bel Riose? Hober Mallow?

You're so used to see white male stars you're missing them, lol.

Is this what things would have been like if we had internet message boards when Kirk kissed Uhuru, I wonder?

I'm sorry that the specter of "woke" is ruining your viewing experience but I absolutely can't relate.

Or Star Trek:TNG “The Outcast” (about a non binary character) or Star Trek:DS9 “Rejoined” (two women kissing) , Star Trek “Let this be your last battlefield” (the silliness of racism)…

Or honestly the entire history of X-men being a thinly veiled allegory of racism.

I can’t help be reminded about the outrage of having a black woman play the role of a comic book character that was an orange alien from Tamaran

IMHO this is parody / troll, ex. note the timid invocation of "my wife's opinion so its okay to say", that's from the mind of a Woke

Many people thought Trump supporters were trolling, but here we are. The invocation trope is standard for social regressives, to the point where Colbert parodied it. https://64.media.tumblr.com/d01f4eae84afbffb01ea43a9c6995b2d...

I see his argument often, but it's always about how the art makes them feel instead of a Bechdel test for wokeness that we can apply objectively.

What?

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