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I would still hold a grudge. I hold historical grudges going back centuries.

Sometimes I want to but it's hard when every European country has tried to kill you. (Maybe there's one that was good to Jews, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't, for the simple reason that all the Jews would go there then, and the countries all the Jews went to, Spain and then Poland, then tried to kill us.) I don't want to have a grudge against a continent.

I don't think it's fair to apply that to Poland. Jews were well integrated into Polish society for most of its history during the Commonwealth era. Poland-Lithuania was a very pluralistic state with explicit protection in law for religious liberty, something that didn't exit in pretty much any other European state during the early modern era. The inquisition didn't operate there after the mid 16th century at all, just around the time when Spain was ramping it up.

Most of the examples of antisemitic repression in Poland took place during the post-partition era in the 19th century, when Poland was ruled by Russia, and Poles themselves faced similar repression by the Russian authorities.

Albania? Bulgaria?

1. Albania was part of the Ottoman Empire, which, while better than most of Europe for Jews, was not great; being "better than most of Europe" typically meant "you don't get killed every year" and still allows for significant antisemitism. I am willing to grant that they may not have wanted to be part of the Ottoman Empire, though, and there's little on antisemitic massacres. So I concede that I do not need to hold a grudge against Albania. Thank you, Albania.

2. As for Bulgaria...not deporting Jews to their death for one small period of time != lack of antisemitism in the past few hundred years.

According to the USHMM,[1] Bulgaria's actions in World War Two included:

Instituting laws that, among other things, forbid Jews from marrying non-Jews and restricted where Jews could live and what jobs they could have.

Deporting Jews who were not in Bulgaria pre-war (its borders expanded) to their deaths.

Sending Jews to slave labor camps. [1]https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/bulgaria

So, no, Bulgaria was antisemitic in the past few hundred years.

Right. I still want back Constantinople.

Native Americans called, they want their land back.

see, that's Castro mistake. he didn't buy scalps from land owner exploiters. imagine if all natives were in Florida today instead of dead.

Russians were more aligned with usa tho...

Still mad about Amalek.

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