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I run Linux in a VM on my M1 mac all day long. That VM was the fastest Linux instance I had anywhere. Faster the my 5950 and way faster than anything in cloud. Your can't using it is your choice.

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Sir, in the comment you're replying to, I was talking about the iPad here, not the Mac where you can indeed use most of the M chips potential while on the iPad you can't do that.

Look at such a fruitful branch of the conversation that you created! Did you think that would be an option when you bought it? Don't answer.

Do you not expect Apple to use the M4 in the next round of Mac refreshes?

Out of interest, I assume this was an arm64 build of Linux? Which hypervisor or VM software did you use?

Arm64 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.

VMWare Fusion (now free beer) and Podman.

Still running the beta of Fusion which I have literally had zero issues with. I have not benchmarked podman.

https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2024/05/fusion-pro-now-a...

https://podman-desktop.io/docs/installation/macos-install

Was your VM running arm64 Linux on both Apple and AMD? On AMD cpu, performance of arm64 VM is expected to be poor, because it is a different architecture and "emulation" has to happen. Or do you actually compare to VM running amd64 Linux on the AMD processor?

No, this is wall clock time for compiling ripgrep (Rust) and running stream. Both were optimized binaries for their respective platforms.

https://github.com/jeffhammond/STREAM

Not OP, but likely lima or colima if working with containers.

Is Lima or Colima so much better than docker desktop for Mac these days? In what respect, the performance?

I don't have recent experience with Docker Desktop. Around the time they went commercial we still had lots of stability issues with it (eating memory and needing restarted) so we told their sales people to take a hike. We tried Rancher Desktop for a while but something with their docker-cli implementation didn't play nice with dev containers so our remaining Mac users jumped to colima. For my part I'd had enough of faking docker/containerd on a non-native platform so I'm daily driving Linux (Fedora on a Framework 13). No more VM's for me :)

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