Somewhat relevant (from 2013, Google knows every WiFi password in the world): https://www.computerworld.com/article/1496628/android-google...
I remember asking people who supported Google before or after their IPO how they make money with your Data. No one cares. I remember pushing for Firefox instead of Chrome in 2009, no one cares. Not even on HN.
The sad thing is that those who stood up for privacy got bashed down for so many years and never received an apology. Those who defended Big Tech like Google is safe to use our data never apologised.
People do care, they are just sort of powerless to do anything.
Try the following exercises:
- try not to use google docs at work
- try to block google sites from your phone
- try to pay for things on the internet without accessing google/recaptcha/etc
it is both too big and too small of a problem for most people to deal with.
I know most technical people have done these sorts of things, but it is sort of like being your own sysadmin/security researcher. It's probably easier to run your own mail server in comparison.
… but apple sells ads too therefore every option is equally bad!
It’s funny to see people admit with the AI stuff that apple is getting it right, introducing privacy-protecting approaches and services, etc, yet refuse to admit that the same perspective and approaches have informed all their services for a long time. In the day to day, there is no legitimate debate that Apple Maps is vastly more privacy preserving than google maps, etc. People use some weird purity test where because App Store ads exist suddenly apple is the same as a literal adtech company.
A new AirPort Extreme with an M Series I would be all over that though.
Yes.
It also doesn't help that said device vendor has been trying to destroy computing freedom while sabotaging open standards left and right.
> It’s funny to see people admit with the AI stuff that apple is getting it right, introducing privacy-protecting approaches and services, etc, yet refuse to admit that the same perspective and approaches have informed all their services for a long time.
It's funny that different people on the Internet express different and sometimes conflicting opinions?
BTW, I don't live under a rock, I do online banking from the PC and have pretty much given up telling my lawyer and doctor not to use Whatsapp to send and receive sensitive documents, then keep them in their unencrypted phones, but that doesn't prevent me to be worried by how easy it has become to obtain personal data about someone for those who can.