Even if you think it's woke, there's good reason to respect the model's wish
Lena doesn’t harbor any resentment toward Sawchuk and his imitators for how they appropriated her image; the only note of regret she expressed was that she wasn’t better compensated. In her view, the photograph is an immense accomplishment that just happened to take on a life of its own. “I’m really proud of that picture,” she said.
> Forsén herself has also suggested that the photo should be retired. In 2019, she said she was “really proud” of the picture and she re-created the shot for Wired magazine, which called her “the patron saint of JPEGs”. But later that year, the documentary Losing Lena spearheaded the latest effort to encourage computer science to move on. “I retired from modelling a long time ago,” Forsén said on its release. “It’s time I retired from tech, too. We can make a simple change today that creates a lasting change for tomorrow. Let’s commit to losing me.”
This is what’s cited on Wikipedia about the cessation of use.
I'm sure Naomi Wu would be up for it.
She absolutely can. And we, collectively, can choose to respect that wish by using a different test image in future. And why not? It's no real burden to make the change.
The burden here is that a number of people are so afraid of being "woke" that they'd rather double down being scummy than just find a different jpeg. If it was their daughter I'm sure they'd have a different opinion
Are we back in the 60s where a father has to sign off on the daughters job application? We are talking about a woman who willingly signed up for a playboy photoshoot, had been aware of the image being used and circulated for decades with no issues.
Strawnan bs. No one advocated anything like that.
> We are talking about a woman who willingly signed up for a playboy photoshoo
Yep. And decades later asked it to not be used anymore.
You can waste as much time with long winded arguments as you want. Or you could just be decent and not use the image. Your call.
Then how are her parents even remotely relevant?
> You can waste as much time with long winded arguments as you want
Brought to you by the people who bring this argument up every time the image is used.
At the end of the day its a stolen photo, and immoral to continue to use against the express wishes of the subject, no matter how you want to justify it -- she asked, so just respect it instead of finding ways to justify being a jerk.
EDIT: Why the downvotes? I'm genuinely curious. I see the word thrown around a lot but I can't get a grasp on what it means
It is a fact that in the past groups of people have been ostracized, ignored, paid less, acknowledged less, respected less than today based on their race, gender, sexuality, country, profession etc. This has been raised as an issue and for some years —perhaps decades— a counter-motion has been going on: openly promote/respect/acknowledge people that were previously demoted/non-respected/unacknowledged.
The exaggerated examples of these counter-motions are called “woke”. Imagine that we would like to promote the role of ants in the environment because they were largely ignored in the past, so someone makes a movie where an ant beats by sheer physical strength a lion; that would definitely be “woke“.
There are cases where people can disagree whether something is “woke”; for example, think a woman who travels in time to a patriarchal society centuries ago where women were considered property and part of the background and yet she acts in an independent, outspoken, audacious way to men around her without anyone punishing her. That could be called “woke”, but it depends on one's sense of exaggeration.
Reactions against such exaggerations is called “anti-woke”. A great example IMO of a humorous “anti-woke” statement is the image included in the following link, which is a poster for an imaginary documentary: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2440971-netflix
This is your definition. I doubt you will find any agreement on what "woke" means, because right-wingers use it to refer to anything and everything that they dislike.