> For the record: Ukraine has no defense agreement with any of these western nations that are currently supporting them (...)

Why do you feel this is relevant?

> (...) and there is 0 chance that - if roles were reversed and another European nation had been attacked - that they'd have supported this theoretical victim.

I'm also not sure what leads you to believe this is relevant at all.

Ukraine is surrounded by NATO members. If NATO is not enough to counter a threat, things would be far bleaker for Ukraine as well.

What point do you think you're making?