Russian death camp: Three stories of Ukrainian prisoners
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This is pure, systemic evil, on a state level. Russia was never punished for its crimes the way Germany was after WW2. This is the result.
Peace will only be possible when that system is dismantled and destroyed - with everything that entails. Russia is not just digging itself into a hole, but into a grave.
This makes it much easier for Putin to install this parallel reality.
Russians are not stupid, this is a textbook example of a modern dictatorship.
Even if Putin goes away, it might not make Russia better: Putin may be the smartest guy in the room right now, unfortunately.
Those are not the russian people, they are just going to make noise like a lot of noise we see on the internet.
And about logic, more then one Zed was complaining that Ukraine hitting a military shit outside the SMO zone defined but Puttin is terrorism but when Ruzzia hits a power station or civilian building it is not terrorism because the target is inside the SMO. No good Russian popped in the discussion to say he disagress with this point, my guess this is how was presented on Ruzzian media and how any good Zed will repeat it even if the logic is unnatural.
The mods there are 100% KGB guys. You will get banned if you engaged with them, so better don't or make some other account, those assholes will troll your ancient comments and mass report you to silence you.
Since you said you are not following the war let me make a summary
Ruzzia is attacking and Ukraine is defending, the attacks are done with either a column of vehicles or motorcycles/ATV , this vehicles wither hit mines, get blow up by artillery or FPB drones, then the soldiers are picked up with FPV drones. There is a ton of FPV and surveillance drones videos of Ruzzian loses and almost nothing from the other side (but the Zeds are sure that Russia is not publishing the videos they have). Drones are used to also spot logistic of Ruzzians and those trucks/depos are blown up daily, there is also videos of anti air stuff getting destroyed a lot this last month. So Ruzzia is in a despreate attack mode, the soldiers have bad logistic support and they are sacrificed for microscopic gains. The Zeds seem to bet on Trump winning and offering Putin a favorable peace deal. They also hope N Korea will send them more soldiers and ammo to fight, since Putin is too coward to mobilize the people in the big cities.
However, it seems a lot of them are in the US, influenced by the MAGA camp, and apparently unable to discern reality from fiction. (I'm not making a political statement, just an observation.)
1) not surprised this is happening at all
2) it makes my blood boil to a degree that cannot be explained in any rational way.
When Poland seems to be ramping up in terms of military and talks about being "ready" for conflict with Russia, it's not because anyone here wants to go and fight - it's because we know exactly what Ukraine is going through because Russians have been doing exactly this shit to many other nations before. Their brutality knows no bounds.
Enormous quantities of European artillery production are finally coming online while Russia's stockpiles of artillery and vehicles are finally running dry. They won't "run out", but they can't continue pushing forwards with only what they are able to produce fresh themselves. Much like the missile strikes - sure they won't literally "run out" as long as they continue production but Russia can no longer throw 500 missiles a month at Ukraine anymore because the stockpiles are gone. Now the biggest problem is glide bombs, but that is being mitigated also.
The situation with the power grid is quite serious, though. It's going to be a very difficult winter for civilians. It's a damn shame that western nations couldn't pony up sufficient air defense before it was needed rather than waiting until after it was too late.
This is what I was talking about.
For the record: Ukraine has no defense agreement with any of these western nations that are currently supporting them, and there is 0 chance that - if roles were reversed and another European nation had been attacked - that they'd have supported this theoretical victim.
The way you're phrasing that is honestly outrageous.
The UK and US provided "security assurances" to Ukraine in return for it giving up its nukes.
Why do you feel this is relevant?
> (...) and there is 0 chance that - if roles were reversed and another European nation had been attacked - that they'd have supported this theoretical victim.
I'm also not sure what leads you to believe this is relevant at all.
Ukraine is surrounded by NATO members. If NATO is not enough to counter a threat, things would be far bleaker for Ukraine as well.
What point do you think you're making?
Neighboring is not surrounding.
There would've been countless ways to mitigate the risks of the invasion, they choose not to and now even badmouth the nations literally gifting them money.
This is at a level of homeowners not insuring their homes and then complain that the state took a while to rebuild their homes free of charge.
Russia has shown that they don't have the resources to make meaningful progress towards Ukraine and given West's support the outcome is inevitable that Ukraine will be victorious.
The only question is if Russia apologists gain political power in the west and manage to stop West's support (Trump is Putin's buddy, by his own admission for example).
And even then the remaining support in West gives Ukraine the upper hand.
Odds are in their, and hence Putin's, favor.
And even if Trump wins it's not likely he can pull all support.
Even though the russian invasion of Ukraine is already a catastrophic strategic defeat for Russia and the initial domino of its unavoidable collapse, this does not mean that Ukraine is safe and Russia's genocide of Ukraine cannot go through anymore. In a war of attrition Russia has far more people they can force into the meat grinder to exhaust Ukraine's defenses. Even if Russia's meat wave tactics continue to be the norm, Ukraine can only support for so long today's 10-to-1 kill/death ratio.
The big and mighty Putin needs to visit North Korea to get ammo because no one else respects Russia any more. That doesn't sound like things are going that well.
Dude, you're the only person here who mentioned America. Feels like you're projecting what you think other people think and reply to that, not to what they actually wrote.
The evil of Nazi Germany is notable because of the scale of their atrocities. This is the same with Russia where the evil is so systematic and widespread that it boggles the mind.
Trying to compare the evil of Russia today to something like Guantanamo can only be seen as furthering Russia's propaganda.
1) even the article didn't mention it, so it feels like a forced comment to say "well, there are only shades of grey".
2) folks who aren't US citizens don't vibe with your perspective the same way. As a Pole I see Russians as unequivcally "the bad guys" because they have done the exact same kind of thing to our country to Polish people in the past. The tales of Polish prisoners in Russian work camps are numerous and pretty much the same as this article describes.
You're trying very hard to insert the US into the discussion here while the focus should be on what Russia is doing to Ukraine, where there's very clearly a good vs evil thing going on.
Complaining about the evil that US has committed when discussing Russia's actions is only helping Russia's propaganda. Cut it out.
The scale of Putin's Russia crimes are stratospheric. It isn't only tortures, there's raping, kids kidnapping, castration, targeting civilians with bombs, etc. And that isn't all, in particular if you add what Putin's regime is doing against their own people. Also keep an eye on what's still happening in Syria, and what Wagner is doing in the Sahel region.
Whataboutism aside, I really don't get what you're trying to imply with that "actually".
Like, is there some country whose blemished record we pretend is terrible, but is "actually" okay when compared to Russia?
Julian Assange was recently freed after spending 12 years either cooped in an embassy or in literal prisons because of the US's relentless campaign to punish him for exposing the US's war crimes. (And yes, there are many things to dislike about Assange and his support for Russia is a pretty big one, but the US would have hunted him regardless of these things.)
Is the message that the US aren't actually the bad guys? That they're only the bad guys until you compare them to more violent and more openly criminal regimes? In that logic, isn't Russia not-actually-the-bad-guys because it has committed fewer war crimes than ISIS or the Nazis or the Myanmar junta? (Or maybe not. I don't know the numbers for any of those.)
The lesson can't be that we're periodically reminded of evil when it's unambiguous and performed by polities opposed to US hegemony. All states do evil given the opportunity, and the only way to close off that opportunity and call them out whenever it happens, whether they are Russian, American, Israeli, Arab, French, Brazilian, Papuan or whatever else.