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All the "10x programmers" I've ever met have been taken advantage of way more and been used as company slaves more than the "clock watchers".

I'll "bend over" and be pleasant during a meeting. Then on Friday night I leave work, have a date night with my girlfriend and have to silence Slack because the 10x guy got suckered into working on some odd feature instead of living life. In the end, I get the same salary and the same equity. Who's the person actually being bent over by the industry here?

You don’t get the same salary and equity as a top performer. Very few companies give flat raises and bonuses without taking into account performance.

And if your manager cares about productivity, the 10x programmer is going to take the cake.

The correlation between performance and pay is really weak.

In my experience, probably negative too, since most work seem to be done by junior employees while the most seniors coast around fixing some bug every now and then on something they wrote some time ago.

Agreed. My primary motivation to be more productive is to free up work time for personal use. That's it. When I become a 10x developer and effectively work 1-2 hours a day I keep that to myself as a closely guarded secret. I know I will not receive 10x more pay for that increased productivity and I also know as I mention it the institution will find a way to take it from me for any number of unproductive reasons.

I’m telling you as a manager in a company that rewards productivity. We do refresher percentages and bonuses based on perf feedback from leads and peers.

Coasting senior clock punchers get base salary and little more. It’s easy for high performing people with lower titles to pass seniors in TC over a couple of years due to stacking perf bonus stock grants.

how do you measure productivity?

Absolutely. The problem with trying too hard to be a great craftsman is that you become emotionally invested. Most of your peers will not have this and will not understand it.

Someone else mentioned becoming a 10x developer and yet being surpassed in your career. That is absolutely very real.

> Your advice for being valuable is basically to slave away and follow your masters orders at daily scrum, not leave your box one minute outside of your allocated time , attend all bending over sessions and be pleasant as you take it , say what they want you to say with precision and always be whatever they want you to be i.e a massive people pleasing cuck with no principles that nobody can ever really trust or respect.

What the hell did I just read?

I think that it was the kind of screed that an incel might regurgitate

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