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> For a split second, I thought you were running the vacuum in the living room,” she told me. Just browsing a few websites with the laptop plugged in was enough to cross 70°C

That sounds not awesome…

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I've never had the fans that loud in mine. I intentionally don't have a dGPU, because I have no need for it. The cooling is fine on the base unit with APU only.

The CPU temp can get high, but that is expected for these chips. They will run up to max temps and throttle to maintain peak performance under the current conditions.

90% of the blame here lies on the modern bloated web and poor software design in general, not the Framework laptop hardware design.

My work laptop sounds like a vacuum just from opening Teams/Edge at the same time, without even doing any active work.

Not true in my opinion. I've used older Intel (8th gen or even 5th gen) or Amd (5000 series) laptops staying 100% silent under moderate load and perfectly capable of browsing the web. Now, it's not criticism of Framework alone, I don't even own it, but a broader criticism of many modern laptops getting hot and loud, especially on Windows without further tweaks. Some, not all, models run better on Linux or on Windows with some tricks, like disabling boost.

I should have clarified that my work laptop is not a Framework laptop.

Yeah I have a framework 13 and by far my biggest complaint is the extreme heat it runs on by default. I know I will never be buying another framework laptop.

Mine overheats and throttles to 200MHz (yes… MHz), I no longer use it and I have to throttle the cpu in windows for it to be functional so it doesn’t overheat from web browsing and become nonfunctional.

I haven't personally tried it but I understand that it shouldn't be too difficult to 'undervolt' it, possibly even from user space.

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