Both examples are expressing the same belief about Dobbs! Yes, I believe the social harmony from allowing these questions to be decided democratically outweighs individual "rights."

What about Ireland? Abortion was illegal in Ireland until 2018, and then it was put to the public for vote in a referendum. In 2010, the European Court of Human Rights refused to overturn Ireland's abortion ban (though it did find a due process violation with respect to the lack of procedures for qualifying for a pre-existing exception for life-threatening conditions). That's how the law works in civilized democracies. People make decisions on social issues, not judges.