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Comment by JeremyHerrman | Hacker News Reader

> Privacy protections are built in when accessing ChatGPT within Siri and Writing Tools—requests are not stored by OpenAI, and users’ IP addresses are obscured. Users can also choose to connect their ChatGPT account, which means their data preferences will apply under ChatGPT’s policies.

So does this mean that by default, a random Apple user won't have their ChatGPT requests used for OpenAI training, but a paying ChatGPT Plus customer will?

Does this also mean that if I connect my ChatGPT Plus account that my data will be used for training?

It just seems strange to have a lower bar for privacy for paying customers vs users acquired via a partnership.

(yes I'm aware that the "Temporary Chat" feature or turning off memory will prevent data being used for training)

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You can permanently disable OpenAI from training with your chat data for your account:

“To disable model training, navigate to your profile icon on the bottom-left of the page and select Settings > Data Controls, and disable “Improve the model for everyone." While this is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train our models”

Great to know! Looks like they only made this change at the beginning of May. Prior to that you had to turn off chat history which wasn't worth it to me.

April 25, 2024: "To disable chat history and model training, navigate to ChatGPT > Settings > Data Controls and disable Chat history & training. While history is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train and improve our models, and won’t appear in the history sidebar. To monitor for abuse, we will retain all conversations for 30 days before permanently deleting." https://web.archive.org/web/20240425194703/https://help.open...

May 02, 2024: "To disable model training, navigate to your profile icon on the bottom-left of the page and select Settings > Data Controls, and disable “Improve the model for everyone.“ While this is disabled, new conversations won’t be used to train our models." https://web.archive.org/web/20240502203525/https://help.open...

You could fill a form and request them not to train; they usually approved it fairly quickly, but did not advertise it well enough!

and if you believe that you'll believe anything

Companies really don’t like being sued for hundreds of millions in punitive damages just for the benefit of training on the small percentage of people that opt out.

it's "fair use" mate

no it isn’t

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