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That's not a "promise from Sam Altman", that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC.

So I think it's worth as much as Apple is willing to spend enforcing it, which I imagine would be quite a bit.

Idk about Sam Altman in particular, but OpenAI pulled the bait-and-switch you can still see in its name. We don't know what the contract says exactly, but there are always loopholes, and I would not assume anything OpenAI says to be in good faith.

I also don't really care, but it's understandable why some people do.

> that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC.

do you have a source on this or are you just assuming?

Do you think this is all running off the standard openai API and they picked a dev at random in Apple to use their accounts API keys?

Of course there is some agreement…

It would be a very surprising business arrangement if that was not explicitly called out. Apple is not going to leave this to chance.

> Apple is not going to leave this to chance.

How much would you be willing to bet, on a statement like this? I love a sporting chance.

If we find out in the next 12 months that OpenAI has been storing requests from Apple/Siri AND Apple doesn't come down on them with a 10 ton lawyer hammer, I'll pay you $500.

Can you match it the other way around? :)

crickets from OP

I will bet around $10,000 FWIW.

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