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I think pretty much everyone wants this yet we still use these plastics… we want to end global warming yet we still drive cars. We care but to what degree do we actually care? Not much.

There’s huge business interest pushing the usage of environmentally damaging products forward because it generates money. This against consumer laziness, progress will be slow

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> There’s huge business interest pushing the usage of environmentally damaging products forward because it generates money.

The converse (pushing green products) is also true so we have to consider whether the environmental impact is as big as is claimed, whether it's worth it even if it is (single issue reductivism is a dangerous way to craft policy), or whether banal financial and power incentives are the true moving force behind the lobbied solution.

Yeah positive incentive and/or negative deterrent is just not strong enough for people to act on it over the current convenience. If "reusable" bags cost $10 at the store, but you get it refunded if you bring your own, I bet people won't forget to bring their own. The laws just arent strong enough

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