No matter the effort put into explaining the ineffectiveness of these stand-up meetings, the core issue remains: they serve as a platform for middle managers to assert the authority they have long pursued. Rationalizing with this mindset proves difficult, and in the absence of these meetings, the roles of these managers -whom I refer to as ‘wranglers’- would be called into question. As a certified project manager myself, I can assert that the enforcement of these methodologies contradicts the principles of project management. Moreover, attempts to convey this perspective, especially from a certified individual to those who are typically not certified, often fall on deaf ears. Regardless of whether the approach is Agile or not, middle managers tend to transform these processes into the very shit show that is currently observed. .