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This is a deliberate mischaracterization of democracy. If the system meets these criteria then it by definition isn't democracy. Allowing people to claim that it is democracy just let's them hide behind the idea without having to meet any of the obligations that idea puts on them.

I mean, I fully agree with you. But this is the demonstrable reality of modern democracy. They all meet these criteria, and yes, they all hide behind the term democracy while not actually meeting any of it's obligations. If pressed they would say, "What are you going to do about it?" because they designed a system in which you are powerless, and so they know you can do nothing about it.

Our planet is on fire and our world leaders twiddle their thumbs and prepare bunkers to coast out the collapse. Tell me how that's conceivably a result of an empowered populace after decades of said populace campaigning for climate change legislation.

You overestimate the concern of the “populace” with the planet being “on fire”.

Here are the numbers:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/09/what-the-...

9 in 10 democrats want this addressed, yet when the democrats have control, very little happens.

Depending on the question, a majority of republicans do too.

Over 66% of the US population wants more action, and 75% say we should be more involved in international initiatives to combat climate change.

Weird, i thought half of US people voted for someone who called it 'mostly a hoax'?

More than half of US people voted for a man who is famous for saying "If Israel did not exist, America would make one" and I guarantee you the majority of those voters don't agree with that statement. The conservative lobby rallying around global warming revisionists is mostly an alignment of interests; if it was a hot-topic issue you'd see it on TV ads and at debates. You don't.

In the US there is no option, the politics of both Democrats and Republicans support Israel heavily, one reason is to protect US' interest in the region, another is being anti-antisemitic.

The same cannot be said for (denial of) climate change, or at least not for the hoax guy that represented the Republicans.

Then pick any issue you wish from the absolute truckload of issues where the people have clearly spoken and yet their government does nothing despite supposedly representing them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...

Absolutely agree with you.

> they know you can do nothing about it

And if you try, you become an enemy of the state. A terrorist.

Oh don’t worry, you can also protest. Just make sure to get a permit first and don’t obstruct traffic too much and when the police show up, which they will, disperse peacefully immediately. Just make sure your protest is completely ignorable.

And be sure to protest about things that don't impact the bottom line of capitalists in any way whatsoever. Protest all you want about genders but don't even think about unionizing.

Bootlickers downvoting unsettling truths once again.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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