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Garman was one of the first PMs at AWS. He was sent over to lead Sales/Marketing relatively recently to get demand side experience presumably in preparation to take over as CEO.

Wasn't aware of that either. Thanks for the tip!

Not sure what you are talking about. Garman was in product since joined AWS till 2020, then to Sales / marketing.

John Chambers at Cisco was a notable exception.

But he was notable not just for the company performance but because he was an exception.