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Devil's advocate: People using Android accept (for whatever reason) a less fluid, subpar UI and UX, while iPhone users are less likely to tolerate it (by nature of not using Android). Thus, using an iPhone could actually suggest a more sophisticated sense of taste i.e. being cooler.

Devil's advocate or just trolling?

I can't bloody stand using Apple's unintuitive garbage. I have great admiration for the hardware, but trying to drive their O/S I've always found to be a horribly frustrating experience.

While their mobile OS doesn't differ much in usability from android phones, the ux / ui on their desktop operating system can be quite frustrating, confusing and especially if you come from a windows world, outright weird.

I think it's poorly made, inconsistent and unintuitive no matter what you're used to.

Material design is a better UI and UX experience and more thought out than iOS flat. iOS is more limiting overall which might be better for some users by providing less options. You can't install a virus, or any apps you want, if Cook doesn't approve it first.

But complaining about design is a lazy complaint from 10 years ago when Samsung was fighting against a clearly better UI to differentiate its offering after Google spent the money to actually design a UI.

Lag is an issue if you are comparing 100 dollar budget phones to the latest $1000+ iPhone. Not if you actually compare it to a comparable model.

Could you give an example for a subpar UX?

Devil’s brother advocate: People prefer using iOS over Android because they cannot handle having complete control over their UI and UX. They prefer having strict rules on what they can and cannot do and what apps they can and cannot use.

It’s a division of markets similar to the auto industry: you see tons of Camrys customized with after market parts, but very rarely a BMW/Lexus similarly tricked out.

Similarly BMW and Mercedes posers are notorious for sticking M and AMG badges on their cars. The badge doesn’t make the car go faster, but the perception that they belong to this elite club is worth it.

Not entirely untrue. The last time I had an Android, I rooted it, replaced the boot animation with a Tardis, installed some anti-virus / anti-theft app that silently forwarded all received sms to my other number (and realised after selling it I hadn’t properly removed it).

By the end of that first weekend I had had to reinstall Android / AOSP a dozen times, only to realise Monday morning I had somehow screwed up the cellular stack so I couldn’t use it.

That’s when I realised I couldn’t trust myself with that kind of power.

Honestly I think the iPhone UI is vastly inferior to Androids. I mean, jesus, they didn't even have folders or widgets until a couple of years ago.

No, it's because SMS is awful. I'm looking forward to see how well Apple implements RCS and how many of these problems go away.

Well, my comment wasn't aiming towards the technical details (which I even agree!), but more about the social background, with people considering other people who "just send green text" as "lesser". And no, it's not just the "young people crowd", but a certain part of society.

One could argue it’s a good thing: these people filter themselves out of our lives. It could almost make me wish for an Android.

> Just look at that ridiculous discussion about green text vs. blue text while messaging. People still use that as a marker for being cool vs. non cool in certain circles.

Only in the US. People are much more susceptible to corporate messaging here.

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