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Feels like MacOS, chrome and edge and Windows all are pushing for 5px wide auto hidden scroll bars.

I miss the chunky touch friendly ones that were easy to use, honestly.

that said to build off your comment - everything on Palm felt extremely thought about for ease and obvious use end to end and it's part of why I absolutely miss it.

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Palm had the best mobile UI I've ever used. The stuff out of Apple and Android seems like candy with saturated fats by comparison.

Exactly this.

I'd go back to a modern Treo 650 any day.

Does anyone know whether the Palm UI/UX elements are protected by IP/patents? Meaning cannot use these ideas or elements in new projects without fear of a lawsuit from whoever owns the Palm IP legacy now.

It's old enough that patents are definitely not an issue, and dead enough that trademarks are probably defunct. So any imitation/inspiration that falls short of obvious copyright infringement is unlikely to run into trouble.

UI/UX patents? Outside of the US it is hard to see how a court would validate that. IIRC they are excluded from patentability in the EU.

You can absolutely register your designs with EU patent office.

https://www.euipo.europa.eu/en/designs

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