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I like how clearly scrollability is indicated on PalmOS, even without a scrollbar.

Feels like MacOS, chrome and edge and Windows all are pushing for 5px wide auto hidden scroll bars.

I miss the chunky touch friendly ones that were easy to use, honestly.

that said to build off your comment - everything on Palm felt extremely thought about for ease and obvious use end to end and it's part of why I absolutely miss it.

Does anyone know whether the Palm UI/UX elements are protected by IP/patents? Meaning cannot use these ideas or elements in new projects without fear of a lawsuit from whoever owns the Palm IP legacy now.

It's old enough that patents are definitely not an issue, and dead enough that trademarks are probably defunct. So any imitation/inspiration that falls short of obvious copyright infringement is unlikely to run into trouble.

UI/UX patents? Outside of the US it is hard to see how a court would validate that. IIRC they are excluded from patentability in the EU.

You can absolutely register your designs with EU patent office.

https://www.euipo.europa.eu/en/designs

Palm had the best mobile UI I've ever used. The stuff out of Apple and Android seems like candy with saturated fats by comparison.

Exactly this.

I'd go back to a modern Treo 650 any day.

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