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So now Boeing and the hospital staff are in on the conspiracy. This place is turning into reddit.

He didn’t say that’s what happened, just someone did not understand how it could be done. The response suggested a possible way it could have been done. People are blackmailed and encouraged with carrots to do all kinds of extreme things. I know this for a fact.

I think people massively underestimate what a huge keystone Boeing is in the American empire. The top of the system has rapidly started getting extremely anxious about the stability of the whole system, especially as they are fomenting war with China and Russia and their plans not only becoming unstable, but actions they’ve taken revealing themselves as extreme risks in the light of stalled progression and unaccounted faults like what has been observed at Boeing the last years.

I personally see just the suspicion of what happened to these folks far more is a symptom of a failing system than is the failing system had neutralized them in hopes of snuffing out threats to keystone components if the empire. The people arts loosing confidence in the competence of the system, a far greater threat than even Boeing failing.

This is specifically against the guidelines:

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

Historically companies have not shyed away from killing people for profit. Boeing is a very very well connected company, and it can barely be considered a truly private company to begin with anyway.

Historically companies have absolutely shied away from killing people.

Has it happened, yes. Is it commonplace, absolutely not!

nobody considers Boeing a private company. It is publicly traded on the stock market.

Boeing is a private company in the sense that its stock is owned by private indviduals as opposed to entities like Amtrak, USPS, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, etc, which are companies that are owned by the government. That is it's a private sector company (vs public sector or government).

It's an admittedly weird overloading of the term "private company" but it's a useful thing to know about - usually context clues can help, but definitely gives me a pause when I encounter the term.

I agree contacts please help a lot, but in this case the context was someone that thinks companies casually murder people and that Boeing is de facto socially owned because of the influence that Boeing has. I'm not sure how oversized influence on government translates to citizen ownership, but asking for coherence is probably too much.

think using the full terms publicly/privately traded can help a lot in this area.

It's also worth noting that "killing people for profit" is not limited to murder: companies kill people all the time - rarely in the form of murder, less rarely in the form of homicide (think security and military contractors), commonly in the form of gross negligence, safety violations, and polution.

If someone thinks that building bombs or killing via pollution is evidence for homicide, they are making a gross category error. The former has very little bearing on the latter.

So now the US government is involved too :)

It seems the risks of murdering whistleblowers, especially after they have already testified, is too great. They just want revenge here?

Just pointing out, now these guys will never be on 60 minutes or giving interviews to popular mechanics, Rogan or Lex Friedman. Whatever testimony is made available will be all that we have on the topic.

And that is better for Boeing than people believing they were murdered by Boeing?

One guy killed himself and the other got MERSA. Only kooks believe that Boeing killed them!

It's quickly becoming worse than Reddit w/ regard to conspiracy nonsense that hits the first page within 5 minutes of being posted. Either HN loves conspiracy nonsense or it's being played by inauthentic actors.

What is so hard to believe about a weapons manufacturer killing someone?

My problem is that you're all implying an unprecedented criminal conspiracy and cover up with absolutely no evidence. My problem is mainly the no evidence part and that's not why I come here- I come here for evidence/fact-based discussion. Not conspiracy nonsense. With this amount of evidence we could claim anything and everything!

I don't think anybody's saying "This happened!" but are rather expressing a deep (and well-founded) distrust for the system in which whatever did actually happen occurred.

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