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Not sure this is appropriate to HN? I come here to get away from Hamas supporters, not to find them.

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Thanks for the reminder! Will do!

I agree with the other commenter. If you don't think the submission is appropriate then you should flag it. But since you commented and then called the protestors "Hamas supporters" then I assume you're okay with other arguing with you about that. Simply calling them "Hamas supporters" and "getting away" from them won't change much and only resonates with people that are already pro-Israel and/or pro-genocide. If you disagree with the protests and their claims you should at least provide some substance for others to have a proper discussion with you. Historically speaking, opposing student movements has a terrible track record of putting you on the wrong side of history (e.g. Vietnam War) so I wouldn't just dismiss them.

I will simply point out that there is no genocide, in fact or in law, and that to smear the Israelis for that is particularly nasty. And on the other hand, support for an immediate ceasefire ( the central demand of these denos) is indubitably a pro Hamas position, so my point was not a slur but a statement of fact.

But your point on HN etiquette is taken, and noted.

> will simply point out that there is no genocide, in fact or in law

The ICJ deemed the genocide accusation plausible. It's a well documented case. The report by Francesca Albanese does a great job of explaining it: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies...

It was just reported the discovery of mass graves where IDF hid Palestinian bodies: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/23/un-rights-chie...

Exactly so. A legal case is ongoing, not yet judged, so there is no genocide in law. And on your second point, it has already been widely debunked as Hamas propaganda; in any case, the evidence adduced would not constitute evidence of genocide. The rush to claim genocide is more indicative of the state of mind of the accusers than anything else.

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