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Swedish neo-nazis are very much violent white criminals. And as much as i have sympathy for their cause and actions, swedish native antifas are (mostly) violent white criminals. Likewise, the cops beating up protesters are violent white criminals. Claiming all the criminality is due to arabic-speaking immigrants is so far-off from reality that it has to be from a very racist person that cannot substantiate their point with facts. On that point, it turns out french racists have exactly the same propaganda, and it's just as laughably and provably wrong here as it is there.
That 25% of rape assaults are perpetrated by a native Swede shows that the problem has to do with culture and education and has nothing to do with immigration. A more interesting stat for your point would be the percentage of these immigrants involved in rape.
Maybe some of these immigrants are violent psychopaths, in which case they will be dealt with by the criminal justice system just like Swedes. Maybe some of them have different cultural norms, in which case they should receive education just like Swedes. In all cases, there is a problem with consent and sexual violence and it needs to be dealt with globally.
You can look it up easily. There's a nice graph on Wikipedia where sexual crime in Sweden is steadily climbing since mid-2000s (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sweden-crime-1976-2016-ro...). For added credit you can overlay it on top of immigration rate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Statistics_Sweden_(SCB)_a...).
> Maybe some of these immigrants are violent psychopaths,
I don't think they are violent psychopaths. Probably some of them come from low quality of life where this crime was not prosecuted but encouraged by peers. Or adhere to a religion which has its own legal system in which rape by a male against female from another religion is not clearly illegal (especially if in that religion murdering someone not adhering to that religion guarantees you heaven in eternity).
> Yes, there is a problem with sexism and sexual violence across most of the planet, and yes it needs to be addressed.
Sure, and world peace too right?
Forget platitudes, it is a fact that this type of crime (like any other) is worse in some places and better in others, and in some places it was better but is getting worse.
Do you even know that correlation is not causation? Unless you believe lack of pirates is causing climate change and organic food sales drives autism?
https://towardsdatascience.com/hilarious-graphs-and-pirates-...
To address that issue, you would have to realize that there are different factors leading more people to report sexual abuse. First, consciousness/labeling of the assault itself, which is made easier by sexual education and feminist propaganda. Second, public policies making the authorities care more about sexual violence; it used to be in many places that a woman trying to press charges would be denied that right. Third, that cops themselves have (sometimes) received proper training in how to handle such cases, and reporting sexual abuse doesn't have to be (although it still is in many police stations) such a traumatic experience as it used to be.
That's just the first 3 counter-arguments that come to mind because they are well known in feminist circles as well as in academic contexts studying sexual violence.
> adhere to a religion
You are just spewing mindless islamophobic tropes. None of what you say is true. First, islam doesn't have a globally unique legal system: sharia does not drive the lives of most muslims, and is in any case subject to many interpretations. Second, of course rape and murder are denounced in the Quran and forbidden by muslim customs... need i remind you that muslims live by 90% of the same religious laws as jews and christians? Third, of course you may find fascist scholars promoting hatred and violence... whether they be muslim, buddhist, christian... That's neither representative nor authoritative on any matter.
> this type of crime (like any other) is worse in some places and better in others
Nonsense. Rape is rape and horrible in any case. Whether you find support in your community to prevent it and to address it has nothing to do with geography or legal status, but rather with solidarity, empathy and popular power. If you were not making an abstract point from your indoctrinated racist incel point of view, you would actually realize that the MeToo movement has precisely shown that no place is good when it comes to sexual violence.
Of course some specific sexual crimes such as sexual excision are rooted in a specific cultural context, but even those are not universal in the muslim worlds. And even then, sexual mutilation of children is common in the western world as well when it comes to intersex children, and that doesn't seem to bother people of your kind.
Do you have the belief that the way immigration is structured can't ever "be a problem"?
I'd recommend looking into the quality of life and cost of living data in Canada, all the metrics that are related, and how they have changed in just the last 8 years - and ideally you find out what the source cause(s) are for that as well - government policy wise.
I'm curious what data you think is hard to find, or what data you think is or isn't relevant and related to suggesting if "immigration is a problem" or not?
Also, could you agree at least that immigration could be structured well to certainly maximize for its positives like you state including being a driving force for technological/social progress - and that could be where most of the accurately kept historical data comes from - at the same time then it's possible that immigration policy and processes could possibly dramatically change and harm the local population, especially the poorest, perhaps inadvertently due to incompetent governance - or perhaps through malice and alterior motives?
Harming the poorest the most being an example of being counter to social progress, unless you don't give any value to the poor who are already citizens living in a place - and value immigrants more for how they could potentially benefit society; or they could make things far worse - especially if there's no proper vetting, right?
You've also simply made unsubstantiated-unsupported claims, not linking to any data or evidence to support your statements - while ironically calling out the person you're replying to wanting them to actually explain it with some detail.
Would you for example consider if rent/housing costs went up by 400% in a short period, and the majority of youth can no longer afford to buy a home - would you chalk that up to immigration playing any role of that, or would your claim be that it doesn't have a major impact?
No i don't have this belief. I believe immigration can be a problem in two circumstances:
- when it's a settler colonial project such as in founding USA / Canada, because it's accompanied by an actual genocide
- or when it pushes restricted resources even thinner, as we see in 3rd world countries who house most of the world's refugees / immigrants (most of them do not even try to reach Europe)
> Would you for example consider if rent/housing costs went up by 400% in a short period
It depends on the context, but as we are talking about wealthy western countries where resources are abundant (and actually wasted) i'd put that on the economic policies and not on immigration. Housing prices are correlated with speculation and the legal status of squatting, not with immigration ; that is because the prices are disconnected from the laws of supply and demand as the supply far exceeds the demands, but very few of it is actually put on the market.
You're actually giving a very good example of how rich landlords and racist politicians (sometimes they are the same persons) are blaming immigration for their becoming richer on the backs of poor people entirely due to their own actions.