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Doesn't say much about that either way, as Amazon in particular already had a known problem of running out of people willing to work for them: https://www.vox.com/recode/23170900/leaked-amazon-memo-wareh...

The last 200 years of automation being followed by new jobs is slightly stronger evidence that further automation will lead to new jobs, but I don't see any way that could remain true once AI is actually human performance when on hardware that runs under some appropriate electrical power threshold. Induction and Turkeys.

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They certainly have no shortage of recruiters with weird ass names to spam me.

It turns out that for the time being robots don't complain to be handled like slaves.

The real problem is when others follow Amazon in scale, leaving humans to survive in a new order.

> The real problem is when others follow Amazon in scale, leaving humans to survive in a new order.

No, the problem is if humans in the set of those who have to work are able to keep ahead of the creation of new automation.

UBI short-circuits the problem because then nobody would need to work. "Who pays for UBI?" you may well ask… well, Amazon can't ship anything when nobody has any money to buy stuff with.

Separately from that, AI currently needs a lot of examples to learn from, relative to humans, so "business as usual" with no further AI breakthroughs will mean lots of people shifting employment every few years. That scenario doesn't force the world economy to choose between UBI and collapsing due to all the jobs being automated and therefore nobody having any money to buy the products made or delivered by the automation.

Only from the selected few allowed to work as druids on the AI tower, after the letcode trials, while remaining mankind struggles with what is left as jobs from a corporate managed government.

I can't even parse this sentence. If you're trying to deny a part of my previous comment, it would help if you indicated which bit you're trying to replace.

My guess it has to do with shit conditions. I mean, shit break must be off the clock? F that.

Likewise, but "we pissed everyone off and they refuse to work for us any more so we had to invent and manufacture robots at a huge and expensive scale" is very different from "we made robots for funsies with our big pile of money and you're all redundant now".

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