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I'm not sure why you think this just because they don't support Linux yet. They have a few core key products such as Mail, Calendar, Drive, VPN and Pass. All of these are great for a Google Workspace convert. Adding Notes to that makes perfect sense as I want my Notes secured end to end and as a Voyager subscriber I'm really happy they are going down this path and it seems right in their wheelhouse.

To address your Proton Drive comment directly, they are a small team and they are rolling out Web, iOS, Android, Windows and Mac. The most common platforms today which is what they should focus on. Android already has photo backup, iOS it's in beta. They are continually having new releases for all of these products and you can see that on /r/ProtonDrive. Saying they have abandoned these products or don't care about them is hyperbole. Is it taking longer than I would like, sure, do I want them to release a Public API for Drive (for rclone) and a Linux client, absolutely but lets give teams the benefit of the doubt.

>I'm not sure why you think this just because they don't support Linux yet

He doesn't think it just because of that, this is just an example. That they had spread too thin with different products is a fact.

I got interested in them for mail, and I could undertand them having a few more things, but the constant expansion worries me too. Even worse if they amass a portfolio just to look nice to get sold and folded into some monstrocity like Google.

>They have a few core key products such as Mail, Calendar, Drive, VPN and Pass

Even those, do these sound as "few core key products"? Those are already a lot for a company like that (as you said, " they are a small team"). Especially when they keep adding other stuff too, like Notes now.

It's not a fact, it is your opinion and you should really learn the difference.

And you should really learn some manners!

In any case:

1) They are a small team (some a little over 400 employees).

2) They have over 4 widely different products (web mail, vpn, cloud storage, password manager) - and now they're integrating Notes.

Those a hard facts.

Now, how does that employee count compare?

Fastmail has same number of employees to ONLY run a web mail offering.

Nord has 4 times the number of employees and has one less product category (vpm, cloud storage, and password manager but no web mail).

So, no: that they're spread too thin is a fact.

You have no idea, it is your opinion and employee counts don't mean anything there as you don't know what their org looks like or what their productivity looks like. You keep stating things as fact without any real knowledge. You have no real evidence to back up your claim of "fact" and I don't wish to argue with you. I hope you progress and learn how arrogant you are here with your claim of fact and change your attitude in the future and to give people the benefit of the doubt. Best of luck to you.

> To address your Proton Drive comment directly, they are a small team and they are rolling out Web, iOS, Android, Windows and Mac.

You said it was a small team for Proton Drive. I also feel they are prioritizing more products instead of investing in improving their current offering

> iOS it's in beta

And was last updated 9 months ago. I'm still paying for it but have had to switch back to using Tresorit while I wait for them to update it.

* Android version was last updated April 10 2024.

* iOS has had some issues, I actually had to remove myself from the TestFlight due to a bug but it is actively being worked on (the beta version). I'm assuming they are waiting on the iOS beta to be stable before another release but I'm not part of the team.

* Proton Drive for Mac was last updated March 29th.

Just because a team is having an issue with one piece of their software doesn't mean it's abandoned or unsupported. Again, there is a lot of hyperbole here.

> doesn't mean it's abandoned or unsupported

I didn't use those words though. I just stated that I have switched to a competing product which is more feature complete.

> Proton Drive for Mac was last updated March 29th.

I switched back to Tresorit due to the lack of comparable features on the Mac app too. And Tresorit is not exactly packed with features.

We can debate dates and details but there is a reason why the comment you originally responded to is the top voted comment for this article.

Do you work for Proton?

An update to the iOS app is coming soon, thanks for your patience!

Please, stop writing “soon”. It’s become a bad joke at this point.

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