Why isn't anyone signing up?
imgz.org
imgz.org
If I have to put a link to an image somewhere to be able to refer to it anonymously on someone like Reddit or HN (that is, I want someone to see an image, but I don't want to give them a personally-identifiable account) I'm ok posting to Imgur. Sure, I don't like being the product, but I have an ad-block, I do it like twice a year, and it's not enough to pay $12 for.
If I want to actually share photos or something with people I know, I'll use Google Photos.
If I need to share an image with someone professionally, I'll use Google Drive.
I want my dollar back
- Introduction: In the first line "but are ashamed of what Imgur has become?" why should I be ashamed of imgur?
- Emotional Appeal: If you are referring to a person who is willing to pay a non zero amount of money as "You are cheap" why would one go ahead and press the pay button?
- Screaming I don't care : You seek feedback and state that you might not do anything about it in the same sentence.
I guess you might have actively prevented few willing customers and made them to reconsider their choices.
To be fair, the admin is pretty upfront about the project in their FAQ.
You don't have to, but you can, if you want.
> - Emotional Appeal: If you are referring to a person who is willing to pay a non zero amount of money as "You are cheap" why would one go ahead and press the pay button?
To get a subscription, of course!
> - Screaming I don't care : You seek feedback and state that you might not do anything about it in the same sentence.
Yeah, I thought about the contradiction there, but I somehow don't care that people don't sign up and also want to know why they aren't signing up.
I had the same thought. If I was going to pay someone, it would be nice if the recipient sounded more professional.
I guess the marketing didn't work.
I like knowing this is just a person, and I would be willing to pay for that. I get the sense this person is too annoyed to double monetize me secretly (only half jokingly: you wont get that kinda confidence just anywhere). And they don't attempt to put-on-airs wrt the competence required to work a small-to-mid scale image hosting platform. Yet it still feels competent enough that I'm not worried about uptime. Plus they have cli tools to boot.
However, as others have said, I just don't know when I would use this.
To be frank, I don't even fully understand how igmur makes money with most people using some form of adblock (there was an article on here claiming 50% of Americas now do so). Plus I imagine if you are looking for some type of hosting that skews even further. I hadn't even realize igmur pivoted into a four-video-ads-per-image social media platform because of said adblock.
I guess this is why we can't have nice things.
Folks -- this is _clearly_ sarcasm! This guy could not care less how many people use his service (or at least, he's maintaining a good spirit about how hard it can be).
For what it's worth, I thought it was very funny :)
If you do a followup, may I suggest “If you all don’t refer more users to this service, I’m raising prices”
But with that being said, media hosting sites (image, video, even email hosting) become deceptively low margin very fast.
With no ability to purge a users catalog of media, over time - a user become LESS profitable for you (because the more you’re having to store for them, the higher that user costs you).
If new account growth slows, it can create a situation where you are unprofitable.
Just FYI in case anyone is looking to get into this business.
If so, then your costs will eventually eclipse that.
Do you charge exactly the cost of the space they use and recurring costs + some extra?
If so, how did you attract users?
I feel like you didn't even look at the site. It's monthly.
> Do you charge exactly the cost of the space they use and recurring costs + some extra?
No, I looked at the price of the space, quadrupled it, and charged that.
> If so, how did you attract users?
I mean, I didn't, that's why this post is here.
I thought you were someone guessing at how to make money as an image hosting service.
E.g., IMGZ charges $34/500GB storage = $0.068/GB.
When you factor in credit card fees, server cost, storage costs, bandwidth, customer support, etc. - margins become razor thin (if not unprofitable if your user base is high utilizing their plans)
Even BackBlaze, known for building their own storage servers to drive down cost, they too have been losing money for years.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BLZE/financials/?guccounter=...
3.4%, so that's $1.15.
> server cost
That costs $5/mo and hosts another ten projects, so it's $0.50/mo
> storage costs
That's $4/TB/mo, so pretty ok.
> bandwidth
That's free, as I know better than to run this on AWS.
> customer support
Oh I don't reply to customers. I have to make money somehow!
I used to be a heavy user of imgur for Reddit and irc, but I haven’t had a need for it in ages.
There’s not enough humor and parodies in startups and software. Bring it on :)
Also, definitely not paying for a service like this. Especially not with this level of professionalism.
I think I’ll go to the competitor, Oracle Advanced Image Sharing for Hadoop…
If you need more control, you can just serve the files in your own server and tell couldflare to proxy cache your static files.
For home customers, you can pay for 100GB google drive storage for less than $2/mo
I’m not writing an email as requested in the blog post because that entire post has not even one link to the main page of the service being talked about. Only those who click on one link to another blog post and then navigate to the main page may bother to email.
I think something is deeply missing in the way this blog post is written. And it’s likely that this is not the only post with such deficiencies.
If you’re not all that technical, you’ll just post to instagram or send on a messaging app.
Maybe some kind of feature with a static page to host images could be useful to folks? Maybe just a service that lets folks host a single image on a domain, even.
it wasn't a joke :(
I'm not sure about RSS, I'll check, but with three posts in four years, you aren't missing much. I have no idea how anyone even saw this.
I rarely produce images other than photos, and I don’t like sharing personal photos publicly, like Imgur.
When I share photos, I do via text messages, rarely email nowadays.
I wonder who’s the demographic for this service? Maybe if you define the demographic you could narrow down the message to them.
If you seriously want to bother maintaining a solution your market has out grown then strip it down to pure utility. Remove all copy, branding, colors, and lower price to $2/year.
But... I'd never even consider handing over my credit card or other PII to such an obviously blasé admin.
Also, I don't want to spoil the surprise, but the other sites you hand your PII to are much worse. I'm just upfront about it.
Start with the upload image box then give them a URL
But unlock it only if they then continue to Stripe payment with recurring plan
Only 0.1% will convert but that's OK if you get traffic
Unfortunately I can't tell if that would be possible because either you are hugged to death (at 37 upvotes?) or Cloudflare has decided I'm a robot (maybe I am..)
For what it's worth, the direct, joking, but somehow simultaneously no bullshit tone if the site was incredibly appealing to me. If it had been a bunch of smooth talking "look how we'll solve all your problems" mumbo jumbo like most commercial sites I'd almost certainly have bounced and not even made it as far as commenting here. I'm still a long way from becoming an actual paying user, but I'm interested.
Yeah, they may want to reword that.