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Comment by arcanemachiner | Hacker News Reader

- They're a pretty large cloud services provider (frequently spoken of in the same breath as Digital Ocean and Linode, last I checked).

- Dark patterns are bullshit but are hardly unique to them.

- They probably require a credit card to cut down on scams.

- Your loss as a potential customer will certainly go unnoticed, and life will go on for all parties involved.

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For what it's worth, they lost me as a potential customer too, having read the parent post, so there's at least 2 of us.

> they lost me as a potential customer too

They probably lost a sizable percentage of those who read these comments as well.

not trying to be facetious or anything, but I doubt their product team is worried about customers that are mad they have to click a few extra buttons to save 1 or 2 dollars per month

For every person who comments there are thousands and thousands who are reading. This is their target customer base -- highly sophisticated technical professionals who have the potential to influence many more non-technical people who take their expertise and opinions as a given. If they aren't worried about it then maybe they should think about it a bit more.

Would that not be their target market? They seem to market their low prices heavily.

On the other hand, a competent team would care about a negative message being listed first on a popular internet forum frequented by their target demographic.

The corporate leviathan has to first detect that event and analyze it for sentiment. Before any loss mitigating response can be possible in the first place.

Digital Ocean now and Linode in the past have been considered viable providers at the companies I've worked with. Never have I ever heard the same about this company.

> Your loss as a potential customer will certainly go unnoticed, and life will go on for all parties involved.

Do you have an interest in this company or something? Oddly passive aggressive comment.

Vultr is pretty well known amongst the small technically innovative "cloud" hosting companies, and IMO has better offerings than DO. They also have a peering agreement with Backblaze and Cloudflare; no transfer costs between any of the three.

No financial ties, just annoyed by the mob that comes out of the woodwork to pick apart every shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious, instead of just being stuck in the middle of an accidental PR nightmare.

> shitty dark pattern as if that's evidence that this company is overtly malicious

It is proof of that though. Becouse employing dark patterns is being overtly malicious for us who "see through" dark patterns.

Dark patterns mostly work due to the victim not understanding them, so it makes sense to point them out.

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