did i miss something - which deaths are you referring to?
There'll be many people posting anecdotes of Tesla crashes, and in each case, maybe autopilot was a factor, maybe not. But, in reality, autopilot is just safer than average drivers. Anecdotes of autopilot failures create an emotional response, but nobody talks about anecdotes of deaths due to people driving poorly since it's such a common occurrence. So you also have an asymmetry there.
I'd love to hear a stronger anti-self-driving argument. The mainstream anti-self-driving arguments, I find, are weak. Bring it on HN!
AFAICT there has only been one Full Self Driving death.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2024/t...
This site claims 42: https://www.tesladeaths.com/
They can be difficult to classify. I don't have a link handy, but I've seen reports that FSD/Autopilot disengages moments before an inevitable accident, allowing Tesla to claim that the systems were not engaged and imply they were not at fault. I haven't seen an investigation into whether this is true and, if so, whether the system was designed for the purpose of misleading claims.