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Still massively prefer it to Windows when those are the only two choices (picking a work computer).

Apple has been fucking these updates up more often than they used to though, that’s for sure. They’re still just a tech company behind all the fancy marketing sheen. Disappointing, but not surprising.

I don’t think that literally anybody is on the other side of the point you’re making. In fact, it is commonplace for other ‘tech companies’ to copy Apple’s marketing aesthetic. This has been the case for well over a decade now. You’re arguing against a fanboy stereotype that has never /really/ existed, and certainly not now, certainly not here.

And let’s be honest, Microsoft is absolutely no stranger to releasing updates that break systems. Far far from it.

That's completely unfair! They have invested in stock buybacks too.

> I thought macs were supposed to "just work"?

{spinning beach ball}

tbh, this stuff isn't going to effect 99% of the userbase and their systems will continue to just work. All 3 of my mac laptops continue to work without issue.

One percenters are people too

Plenty of java software is used by regular users. Minecraft is incredibly popular and one of the few games that (used to) run natively on mac.

And there are multiple people here claiming that they aren’t having any Java issues.

People are all up in arms based on what’s essentially a misinterpretation of the nature and severity of these issues. Something is obviously up, but it’s not as simple as ‘Java no worky’.

Anecdata: I've put in tens of hours into Minecraft on 14.4 without a single client issue.

Now the plot thickens because I have seen users report they specifically cannot get minecraft working. I wonder what might be different between hardware or software config to cause this for them and not for you. Are you using the system java or maybe a different java version you put in another location?

To be fair, I'm using Zulu 17.46.19 because I don't have a system Java (`/usr/bin/java` is just a placeholder that says "you need to install Java").

Just installed OpenJDK 21.0.2 via Homebrew and given it a 10 minute run without any issues.

"Just don't use X" and "Works for my use case" used to be Linux memes.

"People keep saying Macos is better than iOS..."

"There are two ways we can fix this problem: we could make iOS better?"

"..."

USB hubs, printers, Java: none of them pay the 30% stamp tax.

So you imply apis and requirements for iOS developers are more stable? huh

So? The users paid for a machine that is supposed to "just work"

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